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its not a requirement on p.67 for resolving a psychic power.

some people seem to believe if you follow the rules on p.67 your power works no matter what, this is false.

For resolving no, but it is a requirement before you even get there. Prior to expending a Warp Charge you must first nominate a unit.

you must declare a target, which only requires they are in line of sight.

also its worth noting you expend warp charge before declaring a target.

blaktoof wrote:
you must first declare a target, which only requires they are in line of sight.

While the powers section only requires LOS, the powers themselves require the range to declare the target.

Fragile wrote:

blaktoof wrote:
you must first declare a target, which only requires they are in line of sight.

While the powers section only requires LOS, the powers themselves require the range to declare the target.

I agree with you.

The point is the rules on p.67 for resolving a power you can complete all of them for a psychic power that is out of range and make it to the resolve step.

Simply making it to the resolve step does not absolve you of other rules and is not blanket permission for the power to work, which some people in this thread have the highly false opinion that it does.

blaktoof wrote:
Therefore you can reach resolve psychic attack for a psychic shooting attack that is out of range, using your logic that making it to resolve step means the power has to have an effect now means psychic shooting attacks all have unlimited range.

obviously they do not.

It's almost like there's a requirement under the power that has to be met..
Oh right - range.
Is there an additional requirement under Hammerhand?

blaktoof wrote:

 PrinceRaven wrote:
I have blanket permission to resolve, therefore I have permission to resolve even if Hammerhand has already been manifested on the unit.

making it to the resolve step is not blanket permission for effect.

I can go through all of the steps to resolve any psychic shooting attack as long as the target is in line of sight.

There is no requirement for range under declare target or any of the other steps to resolve a psychic attack.

Therefore you can reach resolve psychic attack for a psychic shooting attack that is out of range, using your logic that making it to resolve step means the power has to have an effect now means psychic shooting attacks all have unlimited range.

obviously they do not.

"Any model that is found to be out of range of all visible enemy models in the target unit doesn't shoot"

So even if you can resolve the psychic shooting attack, if you don't have range you can't fire, so the power resolves with you shooting the target unit with 0 models.

Also, what does this have to do with Hammerhand? It very clearly is not a psychic shooting attack.

Bausk - so again, whya r4e you creatingin an additional permission step where none is needed?

The "+" symbol is cumulative. 100% true. Saying +1+1 is not equal to +2 is factyually incorrect.

As you are unable to back your opinion with a single rule, please makr your posts "HYWPI"

The correct answer has been found on every page since page 1, which is that hammerhand "stacks" with itself, because it uses "+1", and as per page 2 you have permission to use maths and their symbols. Not a single shred of evidence exisdts to remove this permission, and anyone saying it cannot stack has no rules argument for this opinion.


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Bausk - for that final comment, reported.

They do use maths. They use the mathematical operator "+"£ and do not use a 40k definition for it, therefore they are using the normal mathematical operator "+", whcih by DEFINITION is cumulative

If you disagree with this statement of fact, then this does make it clear why you insist on this extra step, as you have no connection to the written rules at all.

Same old same old, for too long.