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 NOLA Chris wrote:
Looks like a fun list!
Will be great for a Narative Event!

I absolutely LOVE the idea of the Obliterators
since we'd now have the strat to bring back "1 model"...

I'm probably going to try the +1 T to see how that does...

are the break points from T5 to T6 for termies, and T7 to T8 for Obliterators,
good overall?
I'm bad at mathhammer

Thanks. I am going to try to play it against my buddy bringing the ork one. The toughness will really be based what army you are facing. I think that is a good call depending on the match up, if you notice a lot of S5-6 or S7-8 shooting, but if not pick something else. My list is built around having the +2" move which is why I would take that in every match, unless the +1T is going to effect 90% of the army, in which case I would think about it. I would also never risk rolling for 2 as you are more likely to get a combo you don't want than do (maybe if you brought Bile, but I still wound not). If I was going to pick one other than the move, I would probably take +1 attack in melee which is a huge damage buff (I think more so than +1 to hit when you factor in [Sustained] from dark pacts). My plan is to flex into that one with the strat on my two deathstar units (chosen/terminators) when it could make the difference killing something. But if I am playing someone who also has an army based on quickly moving to the center and engaging in melee, I might be tempted to take the +1 attacks. That is the nice thing about this detachment, it is flexible.

Anyone have any thoughts on the new detachment?

I think with the change to the foot prince getting lone op, I think you might be able to make something interesting out of this, but I think it will probably still be out competed by Bile, Raiders and Vets. Possessed Legionaries with swords and Chosen will really like having that extra ap-1 if you can keep the foot prince near by. I don't think the shooting effect is all that great, I really wish the rule was both auras came from psyker models and daemon princes. That would make this much better as you could ensure you get -1 ap on melee units you want it on by adding a pskyer.

The enhancements seem ok, but it does have some interesting strats with the resurrection one, advance and charge is always good for CSM, and the mortal wound one could be helpful to finish a badly damaged unit off. To bad the balefire tome doesn't give the psyker key word, only a psyker attack.

I think it will not be the worst detachment, but not top tier.

Edit. Rubrics could be good in this. Auto st 5 on their ranged weapons and I think they keep battle line so could resurect

The changes to Vasstor and the Lord Discordant seem pretty good. Not sure if they are going to out compete the foot prince if you want a monster type model now that the foot gets Lone op, but I think I will bust out the Lord Discordant again if I get a chance to play CSM any time soon (plan on playing TS for the near future)