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Witch of the listed sci-fi universes by it's story and background equal, better or worse in comparisson to Warhammer 40000?

And one more question? Who do you think, out of all listed, has force to reckon with 40k races?

( For example, I think that Replicators and Ori from Stargate preset a substencial threat to 40k races. Also apply for Reapers from Mass Effect, in my opinion )

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I really like the Halo universe...
Even more than the 40k one.

40k, easily, possibly the most expansive out there, yes we have a scope of the entire universe but it is one where both the fluff and the really unknown alien races, and even those we do know, never cease to amaze us.

Starcraft should not receive a single vote IMO, considering blizzard wanted to produce 40k stuff, and GW wouldn't let them and smacked em with a lawsuit. And thats how starcraft was born.

40k for the sheer amount of books and stuff that's ever been made about it!!

*edit* spelling

Star wars has the best story by a long shot, in depth characters and a whole mess of species to bring out variety within the universe. Even its 'evil overlords' have enough personality and justification in their methods to make them fairly understandable; looking at Thrawn and the Yuuzhan Vong leaders here. In addition, alot of the stuff is fairly consistent and has few retcons, considering the sheer amount of story it has.

Doctor who, because making sense to the general public is never necessary.

Mr Nobody wrote:Doctor who, because making sense to the general public is never necessary.

Who needs sense when you have a fez?
No one that's who...

Being a mad-fan. i would have to say Star Wars. if you loko at the Expanded Universe (including canon novels, games, movies etc) it's background is amazingly immersive and, IMHO vastly outstrips even 40k.


Not gonna stop me readng 40k books though.

I voted for 40k.

But I really love the Halo and Mass Effect universes too.

Star Wars with 40k a close second.

Star Wars! There is no Universe as good and filled with as much detail as the Star Wars universe. I have read some of the boos and played the pc/video games of Star Wars and the history and lore of this universe is just so vast!

Can't wait for Star Wars The Old Republic to be launced

My pick is Star Trek, its more community friendly, they have fun gadgets and they're more consistent with ship and weapon specs.

mondo80 wrote:My pick is Star Trek, its more community friendly, they have fun gadgets and they're more consistent with ship and weapon specs.

I'm just annoyed that no one shoots the Federation officer depite the fact he/she will talk them out of doing whatever evil deed they are doing.

I really like the Star Wars and 40K fluff, but my favorite on this list is probably Halo

I never really played the games, but the books are great; ezpecially the ones Eric Nylund wrote

mega_bassist wrote:I really like the Star Wars and 40K fluff, but my favorite on this list is probably Halo

I never really played the games, but the books are great; ezpecially the ones Eric Nylund wrote

You never played Halo 1, 2, 3, ODST and Reach?

I played only first 2 parts and the game was EPIC. Didn't play later games because I am supporter for "shooters only for PC".

OP I see that SW is going well, I didn't doubt that - Lukas made just to damn good galaxy for us to enjoy .

In terms of just plain consistently awesome, immersive SciFi? Mass Effect.

Babylon 5 was also awesome, I'm rewatching season 3 right now. Star Trek isn't bad, but also highly mary-sue, though I did like DS9's darker tone.

Halo is...well...it's warporn.

Star Wars was cool as a kid, but the 3 newer movies took a lot out of it and it doesn't seem as awesome at 24 as it did at 8. Maybe that's also oversaturation however.

Dr. Who I've never really been in to.

Stargate was watchable, but also highly mary-sue, merely "eh".

Aliens and Predators stuff is awesome (except the AvP movies, especially the toilet wipe of a movie that was Requiem, I didn't even pay to see it and I feel cheated) but quite limited.

Starcraft is well...let's be honest, it wouldn't exist without 40k. It, like 40k, is Space Fantasy with a more anime/movie feel than 40k.

40k however has some of the most expansive and interesting background of anything around. The game wouldn't exist without its background, lets be honest, this hobby is sustained by it and little else. While there's some rather truly awful 40k fluff, especially in the last 3-5 years, there's also some truly excellent stuff. I can't think of another IP with something that has managed to portray a faction as dark and terrible, yet admirable and tragic, as the fall of the Chaos Space Marine Legions. They exhibit the worst behaviors and commit the most unspeakable acts imagineable, yet are also driven, capable, confident, and willing to sacrifice all they are in pursuit of their goals. They are humanity at both their best and their worst.

Warhammer has everything, from Vikings to Rambo to Elves to Orks to Alien inspired aliens to Bible inspired events to Satan to gods to grim reapers to terminators to to everything

In other words, it will be the only time when you can see Rambo fighting Orcs and elves and Satan(Khorne)

After reading, I'm going to go for 40k, closely followed by Halo. I love the Halo games, and the backround is pretty good, but its scale doesn't come close to 40K

Dr. Who is my all out favourite because time travel is incrediably awesome but i still love star wars (darth vader ftw!)

However im a bit disappointed that firefly/serenity isnt up there too

Mass Effect gets my vote. As Vaktathi put it, the games managed to create an incredibly immersive world from scratch. And before anybody starts, yeah, shoulders of giants yada, yada, yada...

While I love 40K's fluff I'm kind of disappointed that the game world has been in stasis for years.

My only other real complaint about 40K's fluff is that info on your average imperial citizen's life isn't nearly accessable as many of the other options listed. Mass Effect, Star Wars, Star Trek, and Babylon 5 all give at least some insight into what civilian life might be like in their respective societies, 40K comes up short in this regard. I realize that 40K, being a tabletop wargame and not a medium made strictly for consumption has to limit its scope or risk get bogged down in minutia but I think that ignoring how the vast majority (I'm assuming, at least) of the human population lives means that I don't have the completeness that the other universes offer. I can understand why it's never been fleshed out, at least in the rulebooks and codexes, but I don't have to pick up expanded universe material in any other sci-fi genre/game I play to hear what the majority of the population does with its time. /mini-rant over

Unfortunately the only universe I'm familiar with other than 40k is Star Trek, but just barely. And I prefer 40k anyway. Love the atmosphere, love the races, love the insane grimdarkness. Dan Abnett and Sandy Mitchell write the best EU books, IMO.

Went with Mass Effect, simply amazing game imo. Though my absolute favorite is the Bioshock world, but oh well.

For everyone that voted Star Wars, remember that Episodes 1-3 ARE included. You should revise your answers.

definitely not 40k, its just a copy and paste of several different backgrounds written by people with actual shreds of talent, with SPESS MAHREENS thrown in for good measure

personally I wouldn't vote for any of the above sci-fi settings, I'd go with battletech, that thing oozes background, and yes I know they take allot of background inspired by reality or history, its different to just ripping off other writers and calling it your own original BS

Firefly. Nuff Said.

Imagine that. The 40k fluff is winning on a 40k forum...

Who woulda thought?!

What about Andromeda? But yeah Firefly rocks and its making new episodes on sci-fi channel or how ever they want to misspell it....

I always liked Andromeda...

I'm a huge fan of the new Battlestar Galactica and Babylon 5's lore. I don't have the time to research the fluff for both shows extensively, but I know one day I will.

In an up fight 40k vs any sci-fi game/movie/tv show, 40k would win but thats not the point of this thread.
I voted for mass effect. I love the game and it makes me care about the characters. hell it even inspired me to do alot more active stuff. Mass Effect has more badder enemies and not tank sized empires like 40k, and darker setting.
Mass effect has a lighter mood in some parts which i love.
40k is my runner up of course
after 40k is firefly. Because Serenity was too bad ass of a movie.