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I've read the debates about going ogre club/ironfist and ironfist weapon/shield, but I've come to the conclusion that I really like ironfists. So much so that I would like to give every bull in my mob one (or two). The question is, from a balanced list standpoint, how much worse would I fare than if I would have taken clubs? The fact that an ironfist can become a shield has some merit to it, however for 7 ironfists I can put another ogre body in the group.

Taking a fist doesn't mean you lose your club.

as per the FAQ, an ogre that purchases an Ironfist and Hand Weapon retains it's ogre club.


this means an ogre has 3 options when fighting with an Ironfist.

1) don't use the Ironfist and just the Ogre club for 3 attacks at -2 armor(Str4 and the Club's rules)

2) use the Ironfist as a shield for a 6+ parry save and 3 attacks at only -1 armor(str4)

3) use the Ironfist as a Hand Weapon and have an additional attack for 4 attacks at -1 armor(Str4)

I'm personally a big fan of ironfists as shields in CC. It allowed my bullstar to take on 10 Ushabti and Tomb Prince and eventually beat them down with only a few losses (and my best rolling ever).

What if I just purchase Iron Fists?

Do I still have the option to use the club and the IF as two hand weapons to get the extra attack, forfeiting their special attributes?

you can't just buy Ironfists.

you buy a Ironfist and Extra hand weapon while retaining your ogre club.


either way, you have the options i gave earlier.