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2011/04/14 15:42:49
Subject: Can you move after you disembark from an open topped vehicle and then assault.
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Sneaky Kommando
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Can you move after you disembark from an open topped vehicle and then assault i.e. 2 inches disembark 6 inch move 6 inch assault.
You're probably wondering it's a stupid question I'm pretty sure I already know the answer just needing clarification.
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2011/04/14 15:44:58
Subject: Re:Can you move after you disembark from an open topped vehicle and then assault.
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Fixture of Dakka
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Yes. But only because you didn't mention that the transport had already moved.
If it had moved, no. In that case, you can only disembark, then assault.
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
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2011/04/14 15:48:24
Subject: Re:Can you move after you disembark from an open topped vehicle and then assault.
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Slippery Ultramarine Scout Biker
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Read in the BRB on page 70 in Open-Topped Transport Vehicles. They can assault from the transport even if the transport has moved but it does not say the unit can move. So, you can disembark, move, shoot, assault or move the transport, disembark, shoot and assault. They cannot move after the transport moved from the rules on BRB page 67.
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2011/04/14 15:57:32
Subject: Re:Can you move after you disembark from an open topped vehicle and then assault.
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Sneaky Kommando
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sorry should have clarified
Vehicle moves 12" disembark 2" move 6" assault 6"
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2011/04/14 15:59:02
Subject: Can you move after you disembark from an open topped vehicle and then assault.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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No, because you cannot move if you have disembarked from a vehicle that has already moved. See page 67
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2011/04/14 15:59:39
Subject: Re:Can you move after you disembark from an open topped vehicle and then assault.
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Been Around the Block
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unite all action wrote:sorry should have clarified
Vehicle moves 12" disembark 2" move 6" assault 6"
No, since you must follow the rules for movement after disembarking from a transport after it moves.
However you can Move Transport 12", run ( d6") during shooting phase, and then assault 6" if you're fleet.
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2011/04/14 16:10:58
Subject: Re:Can you move after you disembark from an open topped vehicle and then assault.
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Stormin' Stompa
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kryhavok wrote:unite all action wrote:sorry should have clarified
Vehicle moves 12" disembark 2" move 6" assault 6"
No, since you must follow the rules for movement after disembarking from a transport after it moves.
However you can Move Transport 12", run ( d6") during shooting phase, and then assault 6" if you're fleet.
According to the 40k Rulebook FAQ, you can't assault at all if the vehicle has moved and you have the Fleet special rule, open-topped or not - you can only assault out of an open-topped or assault vehicle if you do not have the Fleet USR!
Before anyone earbashes me, it's a silly rules error and no one seriously regards it. 
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2011/04/14 16:17:57
Subject: Can you move after you disembark from an open topped vehicle and then assault.
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Focused Fire Warrior
Nottingham
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I always thought it you ran you can't assault.
See, this is what you get for
1) Being a noob
2) Playing most shooty armies (Tau and Sisters)
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2011/04/14 16:18:50
Subject: Re:Can you move after you disembark from an open topped vehicle and then assault.
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Sinewy Scourge
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Arctik_Firangi wrote:
According to the 40k Rulebook FAQ, you can't assault at all if the vehicle has moved and you have the Fleet special rule, open-topped or not - you can only assault out of an open-topped or assault vehicle if you do not have the Fleet USR!
Before anyone earbashes me, it's a silly rules error and no one seriously regards it.
That would be this one?
Q: Can a unit with the Fleet special rule assault after
disembarking from a transport that has already moved that
turn? (p75)
A: No, it cannot. The Fleet rule simply removes the
prohibition of assaulting after running.
But the FAQ just talks about a transport, and the rules for open-topped transport vehicles on page 70 specifically allow passengers to assault even if the vehicle has moved.
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2011/04/14 16:19:02
Subject: Re:Can you move after you disembark from an open topped vehicle and then assault.
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Sister Oh-So Repentia
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Arctik_Firangi wrote:kryhavok wrote:unite all action wrote:sorry should have clarified
Vehicle moves 12" disembark 2" move 6" assault 6"
No, since you must follow the rules for movement after disembarking from a transport after it moves.
However you can Move Transport 12", run ( d6") during shooting phase, and then assault 6" if you're fleet.
According to the 40k Rulebook FAQ, you can't assault at all if the vehicle has moved and you have the Fleet special rule, open-topped or not - you can only assault out of an open-topped or assault vehicle if you do not have the Fleet USR!
Before anyone earbashes me, it's a silly rules error and no one seriously regards it.
Really? What page faq is that?
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2011/04/14 16:20:18
Subject: Can you move after you disembark from an open topped vehicle and then assault.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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gr1m_dan wrote:I always thought it you ran you can't assault.
You can if you have the Fleet USR.
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2011/04/14 16:28:54
Subject: Can you move after you disembark from an open topped vehicle and then assault.
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Been Around the Block
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gr1m_dan wrote:I always thought it you ran you can't assault.
See, this is what you get for
1) Being a noob
2) Playing most shooty armies (Tau and Sisters)
You were right, you can NOT assault after you run. Unless you have the FLEET special rule, which allows you to.
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2011/04/14 16:54:04
Subject: Re:Can you move after you disembark from an open topped vehicle and then assault.
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Stormin' Stompa
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time wizard wrote:Arctik_Firangi wrote: According to the 40k Rulebook FAQ, you can't assault at all if the vehicle has moved and you have the Fleet special rule, open-topped or not - you can only assault out of an open-topped or assault vehicle if you do not have the Fleet USR! Before anyone earbashes me, it's a silly rules error and no one seriously regards it.
That would be this one? Q: Can a unit with the Fleet special rule assault after disembarking from a transport that has already moved that turn? (p75) A: No, it cannot. The Fleet rule simply removes the prohibition of assaulting after running. But the FAQ just talks about a transport, and the rules for open-topped transport vehicles on page 70 specifically allow passengers to assault even if the vehicle has moved.
I'm talking about the FAQ, not the rulebook - which is perfectly clear on page 70. The FAQ itself is specific in determining that units with Fleet cannot assault after disembarking from a transport that has moved. They could have worded it far better - I blame the twit who frequently asked the question!
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2011/04/14 17:30:26
Subject: Can you move after you disembark from an open topped vehicle and then assault.
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Focused Fire Warrior
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Argh!
I have played (believe it or not) hardly any armies where they have Fleet.
My main opponents have always been Tau, Marines, Necrons and IG.
Do DE have Fleet? Surely they have a rule to move/disembark/assault all in one go? Or am I going really insane...
If so - does that mean they cant move 12" - disembark then assault :=S
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2011/04/14 17:31:46
Subject: Can you move after you disembark from an open topped vehicle and then assault.
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Stormin' Stompa
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gr1m_dan wrote:Argh!
I have played (believe it or not) hardly any armies where they have Fleet.
My main opponents have always been Tau, Marines, Necrons and IG.
Do DE have Fleet? Surely they have a rule to move/disembark/assault all in one go? Or am I going really insane...
If so - does that mean they cant move 12" - disembark then assault :=S
OF COURSE THEY CAN.
The FAQ contains a poorly written 'clarification' that serves no purpose other than to break a part of the game.
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2011/04/14 17:38:13
Subject: Can you move after you disembark from an open topped vehicle and then assault.
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Focused Fire Warrior
Nottingham
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Phew...
Friggin' FAQ.
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2011/04/14 18:34:44
Subject: Can you move after you disembark from an open topped vehicle and then assault.
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Furious Fire Dragon
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I think the point is that Fleet doesn't allow you to assault from a Transport that moved. The transport being either an Assault Vehicle or Open-topped does.
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2011/04/14 19:44:13
Subject: Can you move after you disembark from an open topped vehicle and then assault.
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[DCM]
Tilter at Windmills
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Homer's got it.
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2011/04/15 23:29:53
Subject: Can you move after you disembark from an open topped vehicle and then assault.
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Hellacious Havoc
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Homer S wrote:I think the point is that Fleet doesn't allow you to assault from a Transport that moved. The transport being either an Assault Vehicle or Open-topped does.
Homer
Bingo, IMO.
General rule You cannot disembark from a vehicle that has moved and assault in the same turn.
Specific ruleOpen-Topped vehicles allow a unit to assault after disembarking from a vehicle that has moved.
Specific rules always trump general rules.
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2011/04/16 00:20:16
Subject: Can you move after you disembark from an open topped vehicle and then assault.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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With Red Paint Job, and a trukk with Grazzy's Waaagh you can move 13 get out 2" run 6 and attack 6...... 27 " assault !!
Now think of this will about 3 to 6 trukks !!! FUN !
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2011/04/16 05:21:34
Subject: Can you move after you disembark from an open topped vehicle and then assault.
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Tilter at Windmills
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28". You forgot to include the width of the base.
Slightly longer for Nobs or Ghazzy on 40mm bases.
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