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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/15 08:28:05
Subject: Chaos Cult Fandex,
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
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Codex Chaos Legions World Eaters 1) Units may be either unmarked or take a mark/icon of Khorne only. 2) Psykers are at a 0-1 allowance, ie you may only take one model or squad that may have psyker powers. 3) Any units or character that take the Mark of Khorne also gains the Furious Charge and Rage Universal Special Rules. 4) Squads with the Mark of Khorne may not be equipped with heavy weapons, however if the squad pays for an assault weapon then one additional model in the squad may be equipped with the same weapon for free, (I.E) Squad of 10 Chaos space marines with mark of khorne, 1 model buys a flamer for 5 points and one model buys a meltagun for 10 points, two additional models may be equipped with one each of those weapons for free (one additional melta one additional flamer) 5) Any squad with a dedicated transport Rhino may choose to lower its front armour and side armour by 1 and make the vehicle open topped (Im not completely happy with the last one, lowering the armour and making it open topped would mean that the thing would probably never get to the point where it can drop people out, why not just make it open topped for a points cost?)
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Skullscreamers 2000
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/15 15:33:15
Subject: Re:Chaos Cult Fandex,
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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Name: Codex: Chaos Legions
I second starting with Khorne, specifically World Eaters! And for rules, basically bring back all the cool stuff from 2nd Ed! (Edit: I just looked it up, it was 3rd Ed!) Collar of Khorne, Axe of Khorne, More Independent Characters for Elites Slots, and IP's can get Juggernaught Mounts!. (I have 2 "Champions of Khorne on Juggers at home that I can't do anything with!) I haven't played in ages, so I don't know if some of these things will work but I miss them! Oh! And summoned Greater Daemons with wings! Automatically Appended Next Post: Ooooo! Also a Terminator Squad Mounted on Juggernaughts! Yeah!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/15 22:27:21
Subject: Chaos Cult Fandex,
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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I vote just use the rules from the 3.5 codex. I picked up a copy on Ebay for a paltry £3. Best buy in ages.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/16 00:45:38
Subject: Chaos Cult Fandex,
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
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This codex was suppossed to be costom for Hyenajoe for him to use with his army yeah? we should reflect some of the things he has done in his thread, add in units like the ones he has done that have specail rules etc
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Skullscreamers 2000
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/16 10:33:26
Subject: Re:Chaos Cult Fandex,
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Thank you TM for your efforts on this project!
I'd really like to play with a proper codex for the Chaos Legions. When I got back in 40k four years ago, I started a Death Guard army an bought the previous CSM codex. By this time I wasn't really able to see the real potential of this dex and the current codex was released shortly after. Now I fully understand the limits of the last CSM codex. It's far too generic there is no real cult flavor! Converting models is my main hobby, and CSM fluff mixed with all the plastic kits releases gives so many modeling opportunities while the CSM codex is so restrictive!There was so much interesting stuff in the 2nd and 3rd editions!
So thank all of those who are willing to participate to this project!
Now le'ts look at the World Eaters.
I agree with RSJake on the equipment, and every model (except the tanks) should get the 'zerkers "feral charge" rule (sorry if it's not the right name in english for this rule, I only know the french names of the special rules). A special possessed gift table for every cult might be interesting, each table inspired from the god's specific daemonic gifts.
What do you think?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/16 11:03:46
Subject: Re:Chaos Cult Fandex,
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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Ok, Khorne Army. How about........
1) Units may be either unmarked or take a mark/icon of Khorne only.
2) The army may not take any Sorcerers. No phsyker powers of any kind are allowed.
3) Any units or character that take the Mark of Khorne also gains the Furious Charge and Rage USRs.
4) Armies of Khorne prefer to not carry heavy weapons as they interfere in the taking of skulls. Once the squad has taken (and paid for) their first special weapon, they may take a second assault weapon for free instead of paying for a heavy weapon (so 10 man sqaud takes a Flamer for 5 points, they can then take another flamer or a melta gun for free)
5) Armies of Khorne always prefer to assault whenever possible, to aid in this they have converted their Rhinos. Any Rhino in a World Eaters army loses 1 front and side armour and becomes open-topped
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/16 11:51:46
Subject: Re:Chaos Cult Fandex,
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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@ Praxiss: good ideas!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/16 12:37:34
Subject: Chaos Cult Fandex,
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch
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Make Khorne Daemon Princes worth taking. Maybe with giving them the option for a Bloodfeeder?
The Rhino idea is really cool.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/16 15:11:06
Subject: Re:Chaos Cult Fandex,
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Fixture of Dakka
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Praxiss wrote:
5) Armies of Khorne always prefer to assault whenever possible, to aid in this they have converted their Rhinos. Any Rhino in a World Eaters army loses 1 front and side armour and becomes open-topped
Hmmm... I'm worried about plagiarism here...
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I'm not going to contribute to the OP's post in general (apologies), but I would question whether my Fandex (signature) would be of use?
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"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/16 21:14:32
Subject: Chaos Cult Fandex,
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
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Just Dave: Ill have a look at it mate, Thanks
Praxiss: This is all sounding great, ill keep updating my origional post to reflect the growing codex
Zack: Sounds good, i was thinking of making the daemon princes similar to the ones in the Daemons codex, with plenty of options and customization
HJ: I was thinking along similar lines myself, have almost 4 different codicies inside the one codex, one for each cult, and then undivided players can just mix and match Automatically Appended Next Post: So were all agreed that the codex needs to have distinct areas for each cult, also that each cult should have individual wargear options upgrades and powers, what about dedicated units going furthur than the usual cult infantry, like an elite Khorne berserker squad, or a squad of sorcerors with abilities that rely on numbers for power?
nurgle could have the plague guard, terminators with incredible resilience but have snp and I1?
Slaanesh... maybe uber fast jump infantry? like I7? Automatically Appended Next Post: Going with the Theme of Khorne first i think it would be a good idea to remember that not everyone who plays Khorne nessecarily plays world eaters, so instead of having warband based upgrades the codex should center more around the defining qualities of each god and expand on them, this is afterall a cult codex rather than a warband one Automatically Appended Next Post: For instance i think that GW pretty much smacked Khorne Berserkers on the head with the way they are created, however it may be a good idea to have som kind of 2+ save model that isnt in terminator armour for Khorne, so that sweeping advance can be made, but still have the resilience of a terminator model, or perhaps lower the save of a squad, (to maybe 4+) but greatly increase their attacks, for a fragile but hard hitting squad of almost expendable warriors Automatically Appended Next Post: comments as usual guys, just throwing out ideas as they pop into my head here
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Skullscreamers 2000
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/17 17:38:31
Subject: Chaos Cult Fandex,
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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@Just Dave: I haven't read your 'dex but if i stole an idea i apologise.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/17 21:31:46
Subject: Chaos Cult Fandex,
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
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and hahaha yes the open topped idea was in the other codex, however, it is a dex wide upgrade with differennt fluff so it is different
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Skullscreamers 2000
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/17 22:55:05
Subject: Chaos Cult Fandex,
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Fixture of Dakka
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Praxiss wrote:@Just Dave: I haven't read your 'dex but if i stole an idea i apologise.
Well, you did comment on the thread, but it's fine. I may add the the 'fluff' may not be different as you don't know the fluff behind mine. Nonetheless, it's fine.
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Enlist as a virtual Ultramarine! Click here for my Chaos Gate (PC) thread.
"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/17 22:57:20
Subject: Chaos Cult Fandex,
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
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hmm, this is true what i was pointing out is that yours said it had to do with the ramshackle nature of chaos vehicles wheras ours was a deliberate assault improvement fluffwise
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Skullscreamers 2000
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/17 23:04:15
Subject: Chaos Cult Fandex,
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Blood-Raging Khorne Berserker
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Open topped is a natural conclusion to come to when trying to make Zerkers in Rhinos better. Assault-ramp doesn't make sense, so it's the only option left. in my honest opinion
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/17 23:05:22
Subject: Chaos Cult Fandex,
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
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im thinking maybe a 10-15 point upgrade for open topped on a rhino?
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Skullscreamers 2000
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/29 23:17:27
Subject: Chaos Cult Fandex,
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
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well this has died, i had hoped for more input... ah well when people start posting again ill continue
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Skullscreamers 2000
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/30 01:46:20
Subject: Re:Chaos Cult Fandex,
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Defending Guardian Defender
Derby, Uk
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Ok ill risk having my head bitten off about this but I have seen a few things in the deamon codex which contradict the whole "Khorne hate sorcery" mentality namely some of the short stories in there. Is this something traditionalists have chosen to ignore deliberately or just overlooked? Either way whilst a army of this nature might despise sorcery it clearly still happens so maybe a 0-1 limit on psychers per army as opposed to a total ban?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/30 01:56:42
Subject: Chaos Cult Fandex,
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
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this sounds like a good idea, for those people who love the smityness of khorne but also want to throw some psyker powers around as well
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Skullscreamers 2000
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