Forgeworld #272

Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:

No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
Times and dates in your local timezone.
Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.

If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

**reds8n**

Hi there,
First available in limited numbers at the recent Forge World Open Day, we can now announce that the Eldar Wraithseer and Corsair Conversion Kit are available for all Eldar players to pre-order.

Eldar Wraithseer available to pre-order now

Rare and precious beyond compare, their souls protected from the predations of Slaanesh within spirit stones, long-dead Warlocks of great power can still be summoned to aid their Craftworld in the form of a Wraithseer. Armed with a lethal D-Cannon and a Wraithblade wreathed in the eldritch energy of their psychic arts, a Wraithseer is a terrible and implacable foe.

The Eldar Wraithseer, designed by Will Hayes, is a complete resin and plastic kit available to pre-order now for despatch in the week commencing 26th April.

Forge World’s Book Design team have provided these experimental rules, taken from the forthcoming book Imperial Armour Volume 11: The Doom of Mymeara to enable any Eldar army to field one of these ancient war machines.

Eldar Corsair conversion kit available to pre-order now

There are many bands of so-called ‘Corsair’ Eldar scattered across the galaxy, and all are savage and deadly raiders. Outcasts from the strict confines of the Craftworlds, the Corsairs live in self-imposed exile, seeking to explore the galaxy and experience the full gamut of emotion and sensation accessible to the Eldar’s sensitive psyche.

Most are young and adventurous Eldar who will eventually return to their homes older, wiser and tempered by warfare. Some, however, embrace the raider’s life completely and fall further still, becoming ever more bloodthirsty and psychotic, indulging their darkest impulses and eventually seeking out the infamous Dark City. The Corsair warbands will be playing a major role in the forthcoming book Imperial Armour Volume 11: The Doom of Mymeara.

The Eldar Corsair Conversion Kit is designed for use with the plastic Eldar range. Designed by Will Hayes, this resin upgrade kit contains detailed weapons, jump packs and heads that enable Eldar players to convert ten plastic Eldar Guardians into Corsairs, and is available to pre-order now for despatch in the week commencing 26th April.

Salute – 16th April 2011
The stock is loaded, the reservations are packed and the Forge World team, including model designer Stuart Williamson, are London-bound to the ExCel Centre for Salute 2011.

If you’ve placed a reservation order for collection at Salute, you should now have received a confirmation e-mail. You must bring this with you in order to collect your order, so please check your Spam and Junk e-mail folders just in case.

Games Day France – 22nd May 2011
Warhammer Forge sculptor Edgar Skomorowski and graphic artist Sam Lamont will both be attending Games Day France, which is held on Sunday 22nd May at the Parc Floral de Paris. They will be bringing a display of work in progress miniatures and artwork with them, as well as future releases that have recently been handed to our Production team.

We are now accepting reservation orders for Games Day France, and this is the best way of ensuring that we will have exactly the models you’re looking for, packed up and waiting for you to pay for on the day. To place a reservation order, please send an e-mail entitled ‘Games Day France Reservation’ to fwreservations@games-workshop.co.uk, making sure to provide your full name and a list of the items you’d like to reserve. You can also phone the Forge World Customer Service team on 0044 115 916 8177.

Thanks,
Ead Brown
Forge World Customer Service Manager

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/ELDAR-WRAITHSEER.html

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/w/wraithseer.pdf

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/ELDAR-CORSAIR-CONVERSION-KIT.html

**Master Melta**

At first I loathed the corsairs since I couldn't think of a good use for the bitz in an eldar army. However, I think they would make cool warp spiders and those blasters could be turned into or counts as death spinners. Also, the power weapon will suffice for exarch power blades.

I must attain.

I like the rules on the wraithseer from a wraith army pov. I just wish the codex could use them. Assume that since a MC is wielding the spear it will ingore armor saves yes?

**Ratius**

Any idea of a size for the Wraithseer?
Would he be Avatar-esque?

40 euros isnt bad value imo for the stats/points you get.

**Platuan4th**

Ratius wrote:Any idea of a size for the Wraithseer?
Would he be Avatar-esque?

Considering it consists of parts for the Plastic Wraithlord, the size of a Plastic Wraithlord.

**Ratius**

Even better

**wyomingfox**

So S10, T8, WS 5, BS 4, 4W, I4, 3+/5++, Super Prefered Enemy, AND Psychic Powers for 185 points. Not bad...at least not when you compare it to the Nid codex.

Automatically Appended Next Post:
The first thing that came to mind when I saw the corsiars was Moth-men

**Alpharius**

Ratius wrote:Any idea of a size for the Wraithseer?
Would he be Avatar-esque?

40 euros isnt bad value imo for the stats/points you get.

He's basically the same size as the Wraithlord model, as it is a conversion of that kit.

And, seeing as I'll never be able to afford my favorite Titan, The Warlock Titan, this mini Warlock 'Titan' fits the bill nicely!

**Orinoco**

wyomingfox wrote:So S10, T8, WS 5, BS 4, 4W, I4, 3+/5++, Super Prefered Enemy, AND Psychic Powers for 185 points. Not bad...at least not when you compare it to the Nid codex.

Automatically Appended Next Post:
The first thing that came to mind when I saw the corsiars was Moth-men

Yes, I can't see how they could ever be warpspiders without extensive conversion.

**Foolheart**

I have been slowly building an Eldar army for my 7 year old son. To date I have avoided getting Wraithgaurd, but this model looks awesome, and I love the fact that the experimental rules give it a 12" bubble for the Wraithgaurds/Lords. I think I foresee some money draining out of my account very soon...

**Reanimator**

At str 10 is there anything he wouldn't be wounding on a 2+? Seems like a normal wraithsword rules set to me. Unless you want to charge him against that one gargantuan nurgle daemon which has toughness 9? Or am I misremembering that guy?

**lasgunpacker**

I like the helms on the corsairs, much more like the old Rogue Trader ones. I woul dlike to get some. Unfortunately, at £1.8 per figure, it is never going to happen. Pity.

**Guildsman**

Am I the only one that isn't impressed by these? A slightly re-posed wraithlord and some guardians with new guns and jet wings? From the descriptions, I was expecting a lot more. Forgeworld dropped the ball on this one, methinks.

**kenshin620**

FW has been spotty on their latest stuff imo. Didnt get a feel for the cadian hazard stuff either

**sharkticon**

I want to see what the corsairs do, their weapons seem to be in the las variety.

**Kanluwen**

kenshin620 wrote:FW has been spotty on their latest stuff imo. Didnt get a feel for the cadian hazard stuff either

The Hazard stuff is just fine when you look at it as what it's sold as "Hazardous Operations".
People are just whining about it because it's not what they wanted(greatcoats) when the early iterations were being billed as 'Snow Cadians'.

As for the Wraithseer, I don't know how much of it is resin in the painted example they have--but it looks like quite a bit.

**BrookM**

Kanluwen wrote:
kenshin620 wrote:FW has been spotty on their latest stuff imo. Didnt get a feel for the cadian hazard stuff either

The Hazard stuff is just fine when you look at it as what it's sold as "Hazardous Operations".
People are just whining about it because it's not what they wanted(greatcoats) when the early iterations were being billed as 'Snow Cadians'.

Heavens forbid us plebs having a honest to whatever you pray to opinion.

**ArbitorIan**

I like the corsair concept - like the Marine weapons range, FW seem to be finding inspiration in the old RT books...

**BrookM**

They remind me of something from the internet:

**Kanluwen**

BrookM wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
kenshin620 wrote:FW has been spotty on their latest stuff imo. Didnt get a feel for the cadian hazard stuff either

The Hazard stuff is just fine when you look at it as what it's sold as "Hazardous Operations".
People are just whining about it because it's not what they wanted(greatcoats) when the early iterations were being billed as 'Snow Cadians'.
Heavens forbid us plebs having a honest to whatever you pray to opinion.

I didn't say that people weren't justified in being annoyed by it.

But it still comes down to most of the complaints about the HazOps not being what people wanted.

**Sasori**

I hope these become an option when the next Eldar Codex is released. If so, I'm going to be spending a lot of money....

I love the Wraithseer, and and the recent models Forgeworld as been pumping out, for the Eldar.

**redeyed**

The Wraithseer definately looks quality!

Ive been wanting to do a forgeworld order for a little while now for some odds/ends this may tip me into doing it

**Laughing God**

Wow... as a long term eldar player I got to say I'm dissapointed.

Wraithseer- Model look s great... but not much different than the current wraithlord (good think he looks awsome too). And the rules just seem pointless. The stat line is a nice boost for the wraithlord but lets see: Wraith spear reroll hits and +2 to wound... um the old wraithlord could also reroll to hit and was S10(!) wtf is the point of +2 to wound?, the 5+ invul save is what makes the +35 points worth it, and all the psychic powers seem pretty usless besides the first. lol if you roll a 1/6 ur wraithlord/guard survive! who wants to take that chance? and OMG my wraithguard/lord who suck in CC can fleet!? NFW... lol dumb

and im just all around unimpressed with the corsair model kit.

Going to chock this one up to one of Forgeworlds few Fails. Just hope they arent using these rules as ideas for the next codex... dear god

**redeyed**

This is Strength 10 aswell I think mate, on the basic stat line.

**Laughing God**

redeyed wrote:This is Strength 10 aswell I think mate, on the basic stat line.

I know so this literally only gives him a bonus against MC who have less I than he does... so how many MC have I3 or lower? ummm Carnifexes and Unclean ones... who playes either of those anymore in the competative field?... not many if any

**redeyed**

lol thats true enough.

Personally I still like it. I will be getting 1 to go into my "wraith" force!

**Durandal**

Surprisingly, it doesn't look that impressive for a wraithlord. I think you could convert one of the plastic models just as easily. And the Corsairs look like guardians with a weapon swap and huge flags on their back.

I think you would be better off merging bits from the new DE line instead.

**Laughing God**

Durandal wrote:Surprisingly, it doesn't look that impressive for a wraithlord. I think you could convert one of the plastic models just as easily. And the Corsairs look like guardians with a weapon swap and huge flags on their back.

I think you would be better off merging bits from the new DE line instead.

qft DE line smashes this releases face. +1 to GW

**Agamemnon2**

Laughing God wrote:
redeyed wrote:This is Strength 10 aswell I think mate, on the basic stat line.

I know so this literally only gives him a bonus against MC who have less I than he does... so how many MC have I3 or lower? ummm Carnifexes and Unclean ones... who playes either of those anymore in the competative field?... not many if any

A more pertinent question is surely, who "in the competitive field" lets you run Forgeworld experimental rules?

**Reanimator**

A walking t8 d cannon at bs4 is nasty. It might be expensive, but an extra wound and a 5++ is going to be necessary if your opponent spots the trouble they're in. That and some wraithguard as a shield would act as a great fire magnet while the rest of your army gets to work.

Not yet sold on the corsair "fairies" yet. I know eldar can look a bit fragile but that seems to be a little far, despite the rt references.