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Which would you run in this list?

HQ
Big Mek w/ KFF
85

Troops
19 Shoota Boyz, Nob w/ PK, BP
20 Shoota Boyz, Nob w/ PK, BP
314

Elites
15 Lootas - 225

Fast Attack
3x War buggies w/ red paint, TL rokkits
120

or

Fast Attack
1x Deffkopta w/ buzzsaw
1x Deffkopta w/ buzzsaw
120


Heavy Support
Battle Wagon w/ deffrolla, Red paint, 2x Big Shootas, Grot Rigger
Battle Wagon w/ deffrolla, Red paint, 2x Big Shootas (Mek’s Wagon)
255

None.

HQ
Librarian with Terminator Armour and a Storm Shield 145P *
Librarian with Terminator Armour and a Storm Shield 145P **
Troops
5 Scouts with Camo Cloaks and Sniper rifles 90P
5 Scouts with Camo Cloaks and Sniper rifles 1 with missile launcher 100P
Fast Attack
Vanguard Veteran Squad Sargent with Melta Bombs 120P
Dedicated Transport: Drop Pod 35P
Vanguard Veteran Squad Sargent with Melta Bombs 120P
Dedicated Transport: Drop Pod 35P
3 Land Speeders with Typhoon Missile launchers. 210P

Thats my 1000P you couldn't stand up too that remember I could make my Librarians Str 10. Heck I almost have as many models. I would say a redo.

Your list would be fun though. But it's not good at this point cost.

If I had too choose I would say the Buggies the Buggies have a AV and would act as a good screen for the BW's if your determines for this list.

Though both choices have their uses, i'd have to say go with the buggies. They fit better with what you have going on!

So, then, is it just BAD to take BWs at 1000 points?

Its alot of points that you could use on somethin else

Poop.

BWs are just fine at 1000 points. You list is nice as well. The only thing I'd change is to split up that 15 man mob of lootas into 3, 5 man mobs.

Onto your first point, I like both buggies and koptas but in a smaller point list like this you don't really have the points for both. Go with the 2 koptas.

I think if you are looking at competitive for 1k you really can't go wrong with just a mass tide of boyz on foot. At this point level it's too much for almost any army to handle at this low of points.

I feel like it's pretty solid, but Inquisitor seems to think he'd have me.

His list looks impressive, but I'm not really sure how I couldn't stand up to it.

Ah, dem 'umiez just fink we'z Orkz iz rubbish. Dey'ze unner-es-timatoein' us greenskinz, finkin' dey'z no best. But evvurywun knowz Orkz iz da Bestest!

First, I'd recommend splitting your lootas up into 3 squads as you've got the extra elite slots, or at least 2 squads - they can still hang out together but this way they can shoot at different targets if the first 5 kill the first target.

I'd take buggies if it were me, but that's because I have some sort of utter hatred for deffkoptas, don't ask me why, I don't know, I just hate them. I always take them out first, I converted my ones from AOBR into snowmobiles, I just hate deffkoptas.

Yeah, the reason I put al the Lootas in one squad is to cut down on the available KPs, but I agree that having the ability to shoot at more targets is better.
I'll split em up.

24" Scout move, followed by 3+ cover save for the turn, followed by tank popping capability with TL rokkits and buzzsaw str 7 hits.... Whats to hate??? The models?

Personally, I love Koptas, but I hate watching them die.
Ands the AoBR model is effing awesome.

I like it too, but its a bitch to paint!!! Not such a fan of the old models.

The AoBR models are cake to paint, but you have to do it BEFORE you assemble. I learned that on my very first one.
I hate the old models.
Also
I played this list this weekend, with buggies, and it did very well.
I may play it again, but I also think we are moving up to 1500 in the near future, so it's more or less a moot point.

matphat wrote:I feel like it's pretty solid, but Inquisitor seems to think he'd have me.

His list looks impressive, but I'm not really sure how I couldn't stand up to it.

You kill his 10 troops and hell lose 2/3 missions unless your troops die too.

I think that's a really good list. Fast & mobile with massed fire-power available & invul saves for most things. Definitely split the lootas... two squads of 7 should work fine. 8 KPs isn't bad for a 1000 pt army, and you have enough different units that you can target multiple enemies in a single turn while giving him tough choices about what to go after first.

Honestly, it was the most fun I have ever had with Ork shooting.
20 Boyz shooting out of an open topped BWs, 15 lootas, dual Big Shootas on the wagons them selves, and 3 TL rokkits a turn? Hundred plus shots a turn!
I was laying down the wounds, but I was also rolling well.
I think I never landed less than 8 wounds, and averaged more like 11, per boyz unit.
I also only disembarked in the end for fun.

That's the cool thing... ork boyz don't give up much by being shoota's, and they gain an entire separate threat. Much more versatile.

Enjoy!