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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/16 15:45:37
Subject: Warlord and Rick Priestley's Hail Caeser Ancient Rulebook, out now
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Lord of the Fleet
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Sorry for posting a lot of news topics, I feel that each one is better off as their own topic. You can correct me if you want
As said, from the same team that brought out the musket age game of Black Powder, now there is an Ancient Rule set in the same manner
http://www.warlordgames.co.uk/?p=11067
It’s here – our Ancients rules as written by none other than Rick Priestley. This new rulebook needs little preamble so read on to find out all the juicy details!
Seems like ages in the making, but the wait is over! Get your copy of Hail Caesar here now! Hail Caesar is written by the hugely talented Rick Priestley who is something of an expert in Ancients gaming. Partly because of his studying in antiquities but some would say that it’s also because he was there for the most part.
So aside from firsthand experience of classical civilisations what else do you get?
- A 200 page full colour, hardback rulebook
- By the award winning team that produced Black Powder
- Covers gaming in periods from biblical times to the Crusades
- An exclusive FREE Roman Centurion miniature – Titus Aduxas – when you order direct from Warlord Games!
£30.00
While you wait for your copy to arrive in the post, have a sneaky peek of the interior by clicking the image below.
You can also download the quick reference sheets for free! This download not only has the quick reference sheets but also troop listings to allow you to get your armies on the tabletop as fast as possible. We’ve even sorted it so that you can choose to print it out in full colour or black and white. Still have questions? Somehow this release is news to you? Learn more with these handy Hail Caesar articles penned by Rick himself.
Anyone who is looking for a more general overview on the game rules might like to read the first Hail Caesar update here.
http://www.warlordgames.co.uk/?p=9769
Anyone desperate to plumb the depths of the basing conventions used in Hail Caesar will be relieved to find this exhaustive account here.
http://www.warlordgames.co.uk/?p=10059
And for the really courageous reader there is this detailed account of the hand-to-hand combat system together with examples here.
http://www.warlordgames.co.uk/?p=10274
Lastly there’s a brief missive about how casualties are represented here.
http://www.warlordgames.co.uk/?p=10665
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/20 07:50:46
Subject: Warlord and Rick Priestley's Hail Caeser Ancient Rulebook, out now
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Buttons Should Be Brass, Not Gold!
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Got my copy yesterday... Stunning book, even better than Blackpowder and the rules look excellent.
Looking forward to trying them out in a Greeks versus Persians battle over easter!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/20 13:57:19
Subject: Warlord and Rick Priestley's Hail Caeser Ancient Rulebook, out now
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Waiting for it to hit Amazon in the US. I have a gift card with Hail Caesar written all over it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/20 15:58:03
Subject: Warlord and Rick Priestley's Hail Caeser Ancient Rulebook, out now
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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The base size is 40mm square, isn't it?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/20 17:59:25
Subject: Warlord and Rick Priestley's Hail Caeser Ancient Rulebook, out now
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40kenthus
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The game works around unit size - for example a large infantry unit is between 160 and 200mm (decide with your opponent how to set unit size). Within the unit, figures can be on any sized base.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/20 18:52:21
Subject: Warlord and Rick Priestley's Hail Caeser Ancient Rulebook, out now
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Fixture of Dakka
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So aside from firsthand experience of classical civilisations what else do you get?
- A 200 page full colour, hardback rulebook
- By the award winning team that produced Black Powder
- Covers gaming in periods from biblical times to the Crusades
- An exclusive FREE Roman Centurion miniature – Titus Aduxas – when you order direct from Warlord Games!
£30.00
While you wait for your copy to arrive in the post, have a sneaky peek of the interior by clicking the image below.
You can also download the quick reference sheets for free! This download not only has the quick reference sheets but also troop listings to allow you to get your armies on the tabletop as fast as possible. We’ve even sorted it so that you can choose to print it out in full colour or black and white. Still have questions? Somehow this release is news to you? Learn more with these handy Hail Caesar articles penned by Rick himself.
Epic fail! Did Rick forget everything he learned at GW? The correct price for a book of this quality is £48 not £30. At this price people will buy it and play games with it, fool!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/20 21:13:39
Subject: Warlord and Rick Priestley's Hail Caeser Ancient Rulebook, out now
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Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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RanTheCid wrote:The game works around unit size - for example a large infantry unit is between 160 and 200mm (decide with your opponent how to set unit size). Within the unit, figures can be on any sized base.
That should work with standard WRG base sizes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/20 22:06:50
Subject: Warlord and Rick Priestley's Hail Caeser Ancient Rulebook, out now
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Lord of the Fleet
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George Spiggott wrote:Epic fail! Did Rick forget everything he learned at GW? The correct price for a book of this quality is £48 not £30. At this price people will buy it and play games with it, fool!
Hes too nostalgic I think with the old days
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/20 23:51:53
Subject: Warlord and Rick Priestley's Hail Caeser Ancient Rulebook, out now
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Kilkrazy wrote:RanTheCid wrote:The game works around unit size - for example a large infantry unit is between 160 and 200mm (decide with your opponent how to set unit size). Within the unit, figures can be on any sized base.
That should work with standard WRG base sizes.
Agree. Basing doesn't really matter in the game as there is no casualty removal. Units receive casualty markers and after receiving six count as disrupted or something like that. Once you fail a leadership test after being disrupted, the unit it completely removed.
The mechanics take quite a bit from warmaster, with multiple moves possible per unit based on a 2d6 roll.
Units are small, medium, and large, with players agreeing on what number of models makes up which. I think the typical large unit is 24 models.
If it is like Black Powder, there are no points values for armies or army lists. The game leaves it up to the players to select forces and play games/scenarios. It has rules for types of units, and some special rules that you can apply to units. Its not a tournament set, and its not even really a 'pick up game' type of ruleset. In Black Powder, they did give you a formula if you really wanted to figure out points, but its not the focus of the game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/21 09:44:53
Subject: Re:Warlord and Rick Priestley's Hail Caeser Ancient Rulebook, out now
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I am afraid that basing is something to consider.
units can adept different formations ( like wedge, tesudo, swinehead tec,. ) so basing all models on 1 big base won't be very helpfull.
By keeping the mdoels as close to the standard WAB basing sizes you can use your models for both sets.
The only thing is that WAB favors small fronts an ranks while Hail Ceasar has more realistic formations ( wider )
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/21 12:15:27
Subject: Warlord and Rick Priestley's Hail Caeser Ancient Rulebook, out now
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Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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Cruentus wrote:Kilkrazy wrote:RanTheCid wrote:The game works around unit size - for example a large infantry unit is between 160 and 200mm (decide with your opponent how to set unit size). Within the unit, figures can be on any sized base.
That should work with standard WRG base sizes.
Agree. Basing doesn't really matter in the game as there is no casualty removal. Units receive casualty markers and after receiving six count as disrupted or something like that. Once you fail a leadership test after being disrupted, the unit it completely removed.
Basing matters because the width of units is a very important variable on a battlefield, due to the amount of frontage covered. The majority of ancients rules stick with the WRG base widths, which means that the majority of armies are based for WRG. This makes them all compatible with different rules as long as base depth and number of figures per base are not crucial.
It sounds as if these rules will be compatible with standard WRG bases, which is good news for people like me who have six armies based for WRG.
The mechanics take quite a bit from warmaster, with multiple moves possible per unit based on a 2d6 roll.
Units are small, medium, and large, with players agreeing on what number of models makes up which. I think the typical large unit is 24 models.
If it is like Black Powder, there are no points values for armies or army lists. The game leaves it up to the players to select forces and play games/scenarios. It has rules for types of units, and some special rules that you can apply to units. Its not a tournament set, and its not even really a 'pick up game' type of ruleset. In Black Powder, they did give you a formula if you really wanted to figure out points, but its not the focus of the game.
I could live with that. Historical battles were almost never fought on fair terms.
In fact, the point of being a general is to bias the battle towards your own side as much as you can.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/21 13:16:54
Subject: Warlord and Rick Priestley's Hail Caeser Ancient Rulebook, out now
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40kenthus
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Cruentus wrote:
If it is like Black Powder, there are no points values for armies or army lists. The game leaves it up to the players to select forces and play games/scenarios. It has rules for types of units, and some special rules that you can apply to units. Its not a tournament set, and its not even really a 'pick up game' type of ruleset. In Black Powder, they did give you a formula if you really wanted to figure out points, but its not the focus of the game.
I think we are going to see more list support for Hail Caesar than for BP. The Yahoo group already has army notes (can't really call them army lists) posted by Rick. There also seems to be a list set in the works - either as a follow up book or for publication online.
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