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Duke ~ 150

5 truborn, dracon with agonizer and blast pistol, 2 splinter cannons, venom w/2 splinter cannons ~ 185
5 truborn, dracon with agonizer and blast pistol, 3 blasters, venom w/2 splinter cannons ~ 210

10 warriors, darklance ~ 110
10 warriors, darklance ~ 110
10 wyches, hekatrix with agonizer and blast pistol, haywire grenades, shardnet, raider w/flicker field ~ 245
10 wyches, hekatrix with agonizer and blast pistol, haywire grenades, shardnet, raider w/flicker field ~ 245
10 wyches, hekatrix with agonizer and blast pistol, haywire grenades, shardnet, raider w/flicker field ~ 245

8 reavers, 2 heat lances, 2 cluster caltrops ~ 240

This is pretty much all of my current DE models, minus 1 reaver, some random characters, and harlies. This isn't meant to be anything supper competitive, just something so I can play decent sized games until I can afford to spend money on my army. I know that I really shouldn't be spending so much on the squad upgrade guys, but they are what I have modeled, and can't do much about it (prefer to be WYSIWYG when possible, though my "venoms" are just SM land speeders that I never finished).

The Duke is plenty solid for this list.

I understand your modeling issues but I will toss out a few thoughts anyway;

The dracons are pretty meh - especially in the Blaster boat. The one in Sliscus' squad, well...okay, maybe you'll want to assault sometime. But with the Blasters? Drop him and save points in my opinion.

I'd drop the other Dracon too - that way it's possible for the Duke to deploy with that unit and actually give them the boost. He has to deploy with them to grant the bonus to splinter weaponry and since that Venom only holds five...

A consideration is to have the Duke "hop out" on Turn 1 and join a Wych squad (you'd have to trim them to 9 though). He only needs to deploy with the Trueborn, not stay with them. A modifier to consider later is upgrading them into a Raider so you can have a meatier squad if you wish and no joining problems.

Is there any reason not to split that Reaver squad into two? And can you run your heat lance as a 'counts as' Blaster? (I'll admit, I haven't bought the new RJB plastics and have no idea if they included both weapons. The Blaster is much superior. MSU is very good for the DE, spread out your shooting options and don't give the opponent a singular target to focus on. We're super weak anyway, the best defense is to have enough offense he can't stop it all.

That's about all I've really got considering your limitations. blah, blah, Ravagaers are awesome on cruise control for DE blah, blah, I suspect you know the drill

Ah, forgot about needing room in the boat for the Duke. I don't really want to drop the dracon to make room though, that leaves a 52 pt hole in my list, which isn't easily filled.
As for the reavers, they give you 1 of each special weapon in each box, and I haven't painted them yet, so I can switch them out. I do like heat lances though, the 2D6 pen and AP1 has served me well in other lists.

Ok, changes: Splinter trueborn now is just 4 guys, with 2 riffles and 2 cannons. Gave shock prows for the raiders (it has come handy in the past). Now have 3 squads of reavers, 2 with heat lances and caltrops, one with just a blaster.

Points are the same, the duke can ride with the splinter boat legally, and I took out one expensive sarge (which I used mostly to soak points, which I don't like doing). I know I should do more cutting to fit more in, but I don't have the models yet . (first order is dropping the wyche squad sarges for cheapo harmies)

You don't drop hekatrixes for Haemys - you drop Wyches for Haemys. Haemys lack fleet, Haemys should stay on the Raider with a Liquifier and do drive by flamings. Wyches should take the pain token and go assault stuff while being extra hard to kill.

Thor665 wrote:You don't drop hekatrixes for Haemys - you drop Wyches for Haemys. Haemys lack fleet, Haemys should stay on the Raider with a Liquifier and do drive by flamings. Wyches should take the pain token and go assault stuff while being extra hard to kill.

Well, The hekatrixes are the wyches sarges, and the way I'm running them they A: cost over 50 pts (enough to make room for a harmie for each squad) B: don't really make good use of certain combat drug results and C: On average, account for just 1 kill per combat turn. I did plan for the harmies to break off on delivery (fly by flamings), and just basic wyches to run around spreading mayhem.

Eh. Drop the blast pistols and the Hekas are doing just fine in a points vs. functionality spectrum. Feel free to try it your way, but I suspect you'll discover the Agoniser makes a solid difference in what the Wyches can deal with and accomplish on the field.