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hey i'm a long time lurker first time poster so try a be nice ok?

this is my 1500pt list that i would like some feed back on

CCS: Straken, vox, medic,standard plasma
Veterans: Stonetooth Harker, heavy bolter, Grenade launcher
PCS: plasma pistol, power sword, flamer and vox
3x infantry squads with greander launchers and vox
heavy weapon sqaud A, Morters
heavy weapon squad B, Auto cannons
spacial weapons squad with 3 plasma
3x Scout Sentinals with lascannons
Vanquisher with heavy bolter hull [/size
[size=12] LRBT Lascannon Hull
Executioner heavy bolter hull
Ratlings x3

i know its doesn't look perfect but what army is? all comments welcome, cheers!

welcome,
first off, on the post itself, put some spaces in between the units to make it easier to read.


By taking Straken I assume you want to assault, presumably with your platoon? If not, drop him.
If so, his squad needs assault weapons (i.e. melta) and the platoon you are going to assault with needs powerweapons, a commissar and preferably melta as well.

your veteran squad should take 3plasma guns as special weapons, and drop the heavy bolter unless you are planning for it to sit back on your own objectives since you can't move and shoot it (Harker's relentless only applies to him)


heavy weapons squads are all fine and dandy, but they don't have a lot of staying power, so if that is you only troops you have to sit on home objectives, you should get some more infantry squads to support them.

scout sentinals look good, just make sure you outflank them


drop the vanquisher, one BS3 shot isn't going to do much, even against armor.


I would suggest getting another platoon or veteran squad

ok cool, instead of a Vanquisher would a manticore be a better option seeing as D3 barrage wont use the bs 3 much?

and do you suggest all melta/plasma or mix and match for the CCS?

Commissar in the CCS with boltpistol power sword? sound right?

oh and on my PCS should i keep the Officer with power weapon/ plasma pistol or down grade it to a bolt pistol or even a las?

Lokki wrote:ok cool, instead of a Vanquisher would a manticore be a better option seeing as D3 barrage wont use the bs 3 much?

and do you suggest all melta/plasma or mix and match for the CCS?

Commissar in the CCS with boltpistol power sword? sound right?

oh and on my PCS should i keep the Officer with power weapon/ plasma pistol or down grade it to a bolt pistol or even a las?

Manticores are a great choice, S10 for those times you get lucky with the scatter makes them as strong as demo tanks and D3 pie plates makes them very useful for hordes

CCS should be assault if you want straken so go for meltas (a chimera also helps out with the 5 fire ports)

Commissars cant be in CCS, wouldnt bother with them in PCS. Put them in infantry squads for a bunch of stubborn bodies

I find PCS CC power very lacking no matter what you give them. Give them as many flamers as possible and call it a day

Would it be worth dropping the CCS for a lord commisar?

And so drop the PCS officer setup altogether and get 4 flamers or grenade laucnhers in there?

and what would you suggest instead of straken?

would it be worth having a conscript unit with commisar to bulk out my home objective camping?

and if im running it as an assualt CCS is the medic worth it just for FNP??

if not its 30pts i can free up for meltas etc and i like your chi-melta idea except i dont use mounted units so it would be pointless would it not?

Lord commissars imo are only good if theres a unit that absolutely needs a commissar that normally cant take a commissar like ogryns or conscripts. Otherwise a normal commissar does it better since, besides certain attacks like vindicare, he cant get picked out in his squad.

Yea generally the PCS officer is there to toss in a order or two and to look pretty

If you dont want straken then you can go either x4 meltas or x4 plasmas (maybe with carapace too for overheat) and toss the CCS in a chimera. Effective fire bunker. Although I do admit without armor satuation the chimera will get popped fast. Standards are needed too much if you got commissars running around and FNP is a bit expensive for Overheat insurance. Things that get into CC either have a boatload of attacks or attacks that ignore FNP so they render the medipac useless

Also I notice you have 3 ratlings. I'd swap them out. x3 sniper rifles doest do much and in KP they're deadmeat

sounds reason able but my CCS would be the only mounted squad.....

and what do you suggest i do with 3 points except to camp them some where to cause pinning.....

or do i take more ratlings by dropping the regimental standard and medic in the CCS?

Yea I mention that a lone chimera wouldnt do well in a high points game. Unless you get another one by dropping the mortar squad for the PCS. Flamers in a chimera do pretty well when you get in range. With the extra points fro the ratlings you could change the SWS to a vet squad. Better BS and more bodies

so instead of a chimera and SWS a second vet squad and more sentinals?

only reason i was thinking straken was because of the Furious Charage and counter attack rules.....

do i just drop him and have a CCS with assault weapons and a Officer with power swrod and a pistol of some sort?

or upgrade to a power fist?

or scrap the CCS and get conscripts ( about 30) and a lord commisar??


or would this work better;

CCS: powersword, 2 meltas melta bomb in chimera

3x veteran squads, demolitions, 2 meltas all in chimeras

veteran squad with harker and 2 plasma

stormtroopers, 5 man squad with 3 plasmaguns and a chimera

2x LRBT lascannon hulls

demolisher

all chimeras have multi-laser and heavy flamers?

would this work as a mobile/mech list?