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hq

GM
-incinerator-2 servo skulls-master crafted halberd

Gk Libby
summoning-sanctuary-shrouding-warp rift-2 servo skulls

troops

GkSS
-10 knights-8 halberds-2 psycannons
-Rhino-dozerblade-warp stabilization field

GkSS
-10 knights-8 halberds-2 psycannons
-razorback-twinlinked lascan

GkT
-10 knights-8 halberd-2 hammers-2 psycannons

GkT
-5 knights-4 halberd-1 hammer-1 psycannon

heavy support

Gkdread
-assault cannon-psybolt ammunition-warp stabilization field

Gkdread
-twinlinked lascan-ML

I wanted an old school feeling to the army but the libby with summoning sounds soo fun! any thing wrong with this list? [edit] changed the DHAM on the GM for WSF on the asscan dread

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You seem to be running a Crowe list, without the puries or the man himself...

DawnRaid7 wrote:You seem to be running a Crowe list, without the puries or the man himself...

well its lacking a crowe and puries and no riflemandreads with psybolt ammo spam? no storm pigeons or dreadherpderpknights. just looks like a GK army with 20 more PAGK than GKT. I kind of hate on allot of the new stuff in the codex and wish Matt Ward dies by choking on an ultramarine figure, so I'm backing off from most of the new shiny stuff. The libby really is the only addition that I can bring my self to bear.

So is there any noticeable problem with the list? or benefits?

Don't upgrade the GMs weapon to a hammer. Having a 3++ in CC is great. Also I think you could just take Quicksilver with your libby and drop the halberds back to swords.

Also I would recommend, at least I think you can do this, (I don't have a codex in front of me at the moment,) possibly putting a warp stablization field on your assault cannon dread so you can summon it across the board.

Not too bad but consider everything most can deep strike except for the single Rhino and Razorback and the two Dreadnoughts. I'd drop the single Rhino and give the Dreadnoughts double autocannons which are far more shooty. Also having the Grand Master strike last isn't cool, get force sword for 4+ invulnerable save.

I go halberd on my GM to I can strike first and eliminate a portion of the threat. Unless you give the Libby Quicksilver, then I would keep hammer because that would make him INT 10 with the power going? I actually don't know if that works.

I think although quicksilver gives the squad + characters I 10, it doesn't override 'demon hammer always strikes at I 1'. That would be a tad much.

Hammers and fists always strike last disregarding any modifiers if I remember right.

I originally had swords on the gkt and the libby with quicksilver, but for no additional points cost i become I 7 for the squad. My GM was most likely going to chill with the footslogging squad at home objective. And i might try put a warp stabilization field on my dread let me re calculate. Also i refuse to take TLAC dreads, unfluffy and over used IMO.

Libby should keep sword, needs all the invl he can get. Drop all the halberds in the SS. 1A doesnt give them much benefit for the cost.

Shouldn't that third Strike Squad not be able to take a Razorback, because it numbers more than 6 models?

Theres no restriction most of the time. I can have a 30 ork mob and get them a trukk

Plus you can combat squad marines

kenshin620 wrote:Theres no restriction most of the time. I can have a 30 ork mob and get them a trukk

Plus you can combat squad marines

YES! that's the plan, and i want to keep the halberds for the PAGK because I would use counter attack gran strategy and I7 is better than I4 for only 5 pts and they don't even benefit form the swords invul save.

[edit] ACTUALLY should I swap a PAGK squad for Interceptors?

This list would simply work better as a Crowe list was all I was saying. Between the cost of those 8 halberds and the loss of cleansing flame, you´re not gaining anything by using SSs instead of puries. And Crowe lists dont need Psyfledreads. GK lists in general don´t need psyfledreads.

Also were you planning on summoning that dread? ´Cos it moves flat out, so can´t shoot or anything...

He doesnt need crowe imo. Hes already got a GM. Just swap a few of his strikes for purifiers, they'll be even more deadlier with counter attack. Dont see why you brought up psyflemen dreads, he doesnt even have one.

physcosamatic wrote:Also i refuse to take TLAC dreads, unfluffy and over used IMO.

Word.


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Liquid Squid wrote:Shouldn't that third Strike Squad not be able to take a Razorback, because it numbers more than 6 models?

They can have it, just not use it. [unless they CS]

Well I have changed a PAGK squad for some terminators and beefed up the HQ with the spare 25 points I got. Alot less Crowey now?

An extra 10 points spare? what can I do with it.

Looks fun. It's weakness is its lack of long range firepower, but as long as you're moving up on the enemy as fast as you can (which seems to be the theme) you can get around that.

I still think you would be better off not putting the halbreds on the terminator squad with the libby. Yes, they can be I7 for free... but they can also be I10 for free and have a better invulnerable save in combat. Heck, you could even put falchons on them for more attacks if you wanted.

omerakk wrote:Looks fun. It's weakness is its lack of long range firepower, but as long as you're moving up on the enemy as fast as you can (which seems to be the theme) you can get around that.

I still think you would be better off not putting the halbreds on the terminator squad with the libby. Yes, they can be I7 for free... but they can also be I10 for free and have a better invulnerable save in combat. Heck, you could even put falchons on them for more attacks if you wanted.

Yeah but halberds are my love and id rather use the psychic powers on other things when my squad can I7 for free.

Am I missing something? Everyone keep saying I7 for those halberds. Shouldn't they be I6?

Also, I6 is cool, but not needed most of the time IMHO. 4++ works just fine, better in many cases (PW, especially on orks).

I disagree with the range thing. I've been doing a psycannon spam and it's been working great.

Honestly halberds on PAGK are a total waste. I've done it, and those points can go elsewhere. My personal experience is that unless you're running a crowe list, don't build for CC. It's mid range shooty.

Also servo-skulls are cool, but don't count on them actually being there. They're easily removed, and really best for stopping infiltrate and scouts. After that it's just frosting... a very thin layer of frosting that can easily be licked off. However when they are there they're awesome. My first two games I was using 6 just to test them out, and I scattered DSing and pie plating a grand total of 1 inch in two games. Very nice. With this said, summoning is awesome, but can be dangerous.