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2025/10/22 20:52:35
Subject: Star Trek: general discussion-Picard, Discovery, Lower Decks (and Orville)
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Mighty Vampire Count
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:I’ve never got on with Enterprise. No affinfity for any of the characters.
Might look up its mirror eps and watch those in isolation though,
Oh its hugely over the top if you like that sort of thing - I do
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2025/10/22 20:58:00
Subject: Star Trek: general discussion-Picard, Discovery, Lower Decks (and Orville)
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Pious Warrior Priest
The Realm of Azyr, also known as the Realm of Heavens, in the City of Sigmaron... right off I-4!
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 Mr Morden wrote: Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:I’ve never got on with Enterprise. No affinfity for any of the characters.
Might look up its mirror eps and watch those in isolation though,
Oh its hugely over the top if you like that sort of thing - I do
That and the theme song and opening credits changed for the 2 parter.
Loved it!
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2025/10/22 21:12:14
Subject: Star Trek: general discussion-Picard, Discovery, Lower Decks (and Orville)
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Lieutenant General
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:I’ve never got on with Enterprise. No affinfity for any of the characters.
Might look up its mirror eps and watch those in isolation though,
If you've not seen them, you need to see the episodes featuring Shran (played by Jeffrey Combs) and the Andorians.
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2025/10/22 21:18:44
Subject: Star Trek: general discussion-Picard, Discovery, Lower Decks (and Orville)
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Oozing Plague Marine Terminator
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Mr Morden wrote: Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:I’ve never got on with Enterprise. No affinfity for any of the characters.
Might look up its mirror eps and watch those in isolation though,
Oh its hugely over the top if you like that sort of thing - I do
Honestly, the whole season 4 of Enterprise is one of the best seasons in all of Trek, easily tied with other outstanding seasons like DS9 4 or 6, Voy 4, TNG 6th. I'd add SNW season 1 to the list as well and maybe Lower Decks Season 3. Honorable mention to both Prodigy seasons, because they had the best continous writing of New Trek.
So, if you don't want to watch all of it, maybe watch the pilot and then season 4 of Enterprise. But even the worst parts of Enterprise are sill leagues above anything Discovery where it's hard to find even a single good episode, I think the very first one is okay because of the nice klingon speach.
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2025/10/23 19:05:52
Subject: Star Trek: general discussion-Picard, Discovery, Lower Decks (and Orville)
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:To be honest? I’m willing to give Starfleet Academy a fair shake.
Disco going to the far future irritated me, because it felt like a cop out when they realised Absolutely Nobody Asked For Another Prequel. And then they horribly botched it, because the design aesthetic was ridiculous (programmable matter is silly. Your result floaty nacelles are silly. A crew used to now frankly archaic tech just….not having a problem catching up was silly).
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Doing a further forward future setting of course removes a lot of baggage compared to prequel and contemporaneous sequels in terms of Established Events and having to negotiate your plots around strongly established canon.
So the writers have greater freedom, which we can only hope (and/or pray if that’s your jam) they put to good use.
This is actually why I (not you, Into Darkness) give the J J Abrams ones a softer time. They at least had the sense to be a separate timeline, freeing them up somewhat.
Also encouraging is the focus being on Cadets, we can move past The Michael Burnham show and All Action All The Time and get back to Light Weight Philosophy Which Sometimes Does Heavy Weight Really Well.
No, that's true. It definitely better to be in the far future than the far past prequel era. I didn't have a problem with the far future setting (other than magnetized nacelles - that's stupid) it actually freed up the writers to do interesting things with the species we know. I guess I'm just hesitant becasue this really puts it in the Disco-verse. However, SNW succesfully escaped the Disco funk so you never know.
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