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2011/04/21 16:23:53
Subject: Heroic Intervention?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Hello Dakka! I have an idea about heroic intervention but i'm not sure if it works.
A unit of Vangurard Deep strike and make a heroic intervention. Now I know you cant if a IC has joined them when the have arrived from reserve. But can you perform the heroic intervention then have an IC join them when it is time for that IC to move? I.E the preform the heroic intervention, an IC is within 2' so he joins the unit after the have arrived? Does this work?
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2011/04/21 16:46:59
Subject: Re:Heroic Intervention?
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Road-Raging Blood Angel Biker
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I believe it would work and there really is no reason for it not to. The rule simply states you can not have an IC with them when they deepstrike. As long as the IC is nearby and they deepstrike either withing 2 inches of him (which is risky for mishap) or he moves to within 2 inches of them during the movement phase.
My only question is why would you want to do this, and if ur not using BA's its not likely the scatter (if it does scatter) will land you anywhere near the IC in question.
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2011/04/21 16:53:48
Subject: Heroic Intervention?
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Wolf Guard Bodyguard in Terminator Armor
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Actually it says you cannot perform a Heroic Intervention with an IC. It does not say they cannot perform a deepstrike with an IC attached. They just cannot perform a HI with an IC attached.
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2011/04/21 16:57:30
Subject: Heroic Intervention?
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Road-Raging Blood Angel Biker
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Seems like a risky move and may not be worth the effort involved or the risk for the pay off.
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2011/04/21 20:48:42
Subject: Heroic Intervention?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Yeah its a big risk. Mostly i was just thinking if it ever came up. Thanks guys
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2011/04/21 21:07:21
Subject: Heroic Intervention?
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Brainy Zoanthrope
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The rule states that you cannot use Heroic Intervention if an IC joins the unit.
I would assume this mean that if an IC joins the unit after it deepstrikes it would nullify the Heroic Intervention ability because an IC joined them.
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ChrisWWII wrote:I eventually realized that it was apparently one die I had been rolling that kept turning up 3s. My reaction was to take said die, and hurl it out the window of the 3rd floor of our student union. I then placed a Commissar model next to the rest of my dice pile. They immediately began performing much better.
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2011/04/21 21:23:27
Subject: Heroic Intervention?
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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yea, solid no to this.
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2011/04/21 23:38:24
Subject: Heroic Intervention?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Could you please explain why its a solid no?
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2011/04/22 00:22:17
Subject: Heroic Intervention?
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Brainy Zoanthrope
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Mark wrote:Could you please explain why its a solid no?
Simply put, Heroic Intervention is lost when an IC joins the unit.
Heroic Intervention: Vanguard Veterans are famed for arriving at a time and place where their onslaught can make the most difference to a battle. If a jump pack equipped Vanguard Veteran Squad arrives from Reserve by Deep Strike, the player can elect for the squad to preform a Heroic Intervention - declaring this before the deep strike scatter dice are rolled. If he declares a Heroic Intervention, the Vanguard Veteran Squad cannot shoot (or run) that turn but can assault (provided they are close enough) This ability cannot be used if an independent character has joined the Vanguard Veteran Squad.
That last line is important. It just says the ability cannot be used if an IC joins the unit, so I would say it doesn't matter if it was before deep striking or after. Because he has joined the unit the ability to use heroic intervention is lost.
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ChrisWWII wrote:I eventually realized that it was apparently one die I had been rolling that kept turning up 3s. My reaction was to take said die, and hurl it out the window of the 3rd floor of our student union. I then placed a Commissar model next to the rest of my dice pile. They immediately began performing much better.
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2011/04/22 00:54:46
Subject: Heroic Intervention?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I see what you mean, but the Heroic Intervention is done be for the IC has joined them.
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2011/04/22 01:15:38
Subject: Heroic Intervention?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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No, the heroic intervention is being able to assault despite having deepstruck
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2011/04/22 07:16:04
Subject: Heroic Intervention?
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Terrifying Treeman
The Fallen Realm of Umbar
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Mark wrote:I see what you mean, but the Heroic Intervention is done be for the IC has joined them.
No, the Heroic intervention is declared when the unit deepstrikes, but does not take effect until the ensuing assault phase.
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