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A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away...

I was wondering, in the 41st millenium, which race has access to the best technology?

Which race is capable of fielding the most impressive and efficient pieces of tech? I'm not only thinking of military technology (consider any kind of technology that could come to your mind) or the repartition of this technology among the population (I don't care if the Imperium's tech is only in the hands of a small part of the population).

I was wondering which race or faction is able to produce the most complex and advanced technology, even if this extremely complex piece of technology cannot be replicated or produced on an industrial level, even if this piece of equipment will always be rare and extremely expensive to make.

Any thoughts?

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I believe Necrons have access to the most highly advanced tech of all known 40K races. I mean, they are able to bend time n' gak without using 'magic'.

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Laodamia wrote:I was wondering, in the 41st millenium, which race has access to the best technology?

Which race is capable of fielding the most impressive and efficient pieces of tech? I'm not only thinking of military technology (consider any kind of technology that could come to your mind) or the repartition of this technology among the population (I don't care if the Imperium's tech is only in the hands of a small part of the population).

I was wondering which race or faction is able to produce the most complex and advanced technology, even if this extremely complex piece of technology cannot be replicated or produced on an industrial level, even if this piece of equipment will always be rare and extremely expensive to make.

Any thoughts?


Necrons they have living metal, guass and phasing. Eldar and Dark Eldar I would consider second best, Tau, Imperium and Chaos third, Orks fourth and Tyranids last.

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Necrons. They ARE the only race that can do FTL without using the Warp.

They are not, however, the most intelligent.

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Inanimate wrote:I believe Necrons have access to the most highly advanced tech of all known 40K races.


Only in technology that aids their destructive purpose; the IoM has far more advanced tech than any of the other races; but right across the spectrum of technological uses. In some cases, other races will beat them, but over all, especially when you factor in Dark Age tech, the Imperium just wins.

Admittedly, the Eldar will have technology that is equally powerful (or moreso), but in different ways.

To be honest, it's very hard to compare the races, because their technology all works so differently and there's so much scale (for example, IoM has Laspistols and the most powerful Titan weaponry, and Chaos has the humble Boltgun right up to Daemonic vehicles such as Defiler's and Soulgrinders).
   
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Ork Technology is not extremely impressive but it is efficient in killin, stompin, and krumpin stuff.

Which brings me to my next point, for little better then 41 millennium cave dwellers, they are leaps and bounds over their expectation by just knowing with end of the gun the bullet comes out of.


 
   
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DaNewBoy wrote:Ork Technology is not extremely impressive but it is efficient in killin, stompin, and krumpin stuff.

Which brings me to my next point, for little better then 41 millennium cave dwellers, they are leaps and bounds over their expectation by just knowing with end of the gun the bullet comes out of.


The bullets only come out of Ork guns because they believe it will; not necessarily because the piece of crap actually works.
   
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Darkvoidof40k wrote:
To be honest, it's very hard to compare the races, because their technology all works so differently.


Very true.
   
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Necrons have the most advanced technology, by a significant margin. Their ships of the same weight class are equal to multiple ships of every other race. They have FTL travel without using the Warp. Their guns rely on atomization of an enemy instead of crude blasts or straight punching power like everyone else (with the exception of Eldar D-cannons or whatever they're called). And their technology all self-repairs and teleports safely away when damaged.

Eldar (both variants) are next imo, with the Tau and Imperium being roughly equal after that.

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Necrons, easily. FTL travel without dipping into the Warp, Gauss weaponry, and they even became living machines.
   
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Cybronx wrote:Necrons, easily. FTL travel without dipping into the Warp, Gauss weaponry, and they even became living machines.


The Living Machines thing is because of the Nightbringer; a "mortal God". As for their non-warp travel; the warp is anathema to them, so they have no choice but to not use it. The Imperium of Man probably could've found an equal way of traveling, but they had Psykers and warp travel at their disposal all along, so there was no point them investing in finding alternative means of travel.
   
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As of now, the Necrons do have the most advanced technology.

The Tau have technology that is actually advancing, though, so theoretically, they could catch up. Maybe. Then again, we're infinitely stuck in the same time period...

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Necrons > Eldar > Tau in terms of the top 3 technology levels.

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Definately dark eldar . They have technology that TRAPS YOUR SOUL WHEN YOU DIE!!!!!!!

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huntho21 wrote:Definately dark eldar . They have technology that TRAPS YOUR SOUL WHEN YOU DIE!!!!!!!


so do the eldar... its called a spirit stone... except they don't use it as a weapon, but rather to save the soul from hungry hungry slaanesh.

Necrons definitely have the highest tech according to fluff though. Then Eldar and Dark Eldar have roughly equivalent tech

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Darkvoidof40k wrote:
Inanimate wrote:I believe Necrons have access to the most highly advanced tech of all known 40K races.


Only in technology that aids their destructive purpose; the IoM has far more advanced tech than any of the other races; but right across the spectrum of technological uses. In some cases, other races will beat them, but over all, especially when you factor in Dark Age tech, the Imperium just wins.

Admittedly, the Eldar will have technology that is equally powerful (or moreso), but in different ways.

To be honest, it's very hard to compare the races, because their technology all works so differently and there's so much scale (for example, IoM has Laspistols and the most powerful Titan weaponry, and Chaos has the humble Boltgun right up to Daemonic vehicles such as Defiler's and Soulgrinders).


Yes, but doesn't that all depends on the race's overall goals? If the only thing the Necrons want to do is destroy and wipe of all life they do it to about the most advance degree possible (i.e. wiping life out to the bacterial and viral level). The Necrons have achieved immortality and therefore have peaked at a medical level. Guass weaponry is some of the most terrifying tools of destruction known in the galaxy.
   
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Arrgh, what's with all these poll threads where the title is not the same as the poll question!?

Eldar are probably the most intelligent in terms of races (in their current states) since their level of knowledge hasn't really diminished since the peak of their civilization. That's why I answered Eldar.

However, since the poll question is actually about "best technology" I'd have to go with Necrons. They were able to effectively fight the Old Ones (and win) using their technology alongside the C'tan.

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By the Eldar's admission the Orks have developed the perfect society, so Orks win again :-)


 
   
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Dark Eldar, without contest.

The Dark Eldar can capture and transport STARS into pocket dimensions for powering entire, vast mega-cities. The Dark Eldar intentionally bring "weaker weapons" into combat because they want to spread ain into the ranks of their enemies. No other race does this as every other race brings their best weapons into combat. Dark Eldar leave the weapons that destroy armies at home because it isn't fun to simple press a button and suck a planet into a black hole... Which takes me into...

Dark Eldar can create/capture and use Black Holes and even confine their infinitely destructive properties into tiny spaces. Yeah, that last one right there pretty much cements it for me.

Now, I am only going off fluff presented in codices. Necrons can travel faster than light, woopty do, and, um, well, that's about it. The Necrons are basically zombies guided by Gods. The Dark Eldar are just people doing things even the Necrons Gods cannot do. Necron Gods can slowly suck a Star dry of its energy to eat. Dark Eldar do the same thing, but with little ray guns

Point goes to Dark Eldar.

Of course this is all fiction which has no real canon, so this is just my opinion based on what I read from the codices.

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Darkvoidof40k wrote:
Cybronx wrote:Necrons, easily. FTL travel without dipping into the Warp, Gauss weaponry, and they even became living machines.


The Living Machines thing is because of the Nightbringer; a "mortal God". As for their non-warp travel; the warp is anathema to them, so they have no choice but to not use it. The Imperium of Man probably could've found an equal way of traveling, but they had Psykers and warp travel at their disposal all along, so there was no point them investing in finding alternative means of travel.
Just before the Horus Heresy the Emperor was designing a way to use the Eldar Webway - a better form of travel probably - however when he got stuck on the Golden Throne most of the Imperiums forward progress of technology came to a halt.

 
   
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ZeroSamurai wrote:
Darkvoidof40k wrote:
Cybronx wrote:Necrons, easily. FTL travel without dipping into the Warp, Gauss weaponry, and they even became living machines.


The Living Machines thing is because of the Nightbringer; a "mortal God". As for their non-warp travel; the warp is anathema to them, so they have no choice but to not use it. The Imperium of Man probably could've found an equal way of traveling, but they had Psykers and warp travel at their disposal all along, so there was no point them investing in finding alternative means of travel.
Just before the Horus Heresy the Emperor was designing a way to use the Eldar Webway - a better form of travel probably - however when he got stuck on the Golden Throne most of the Imperiums forward progress of technology came to a halt.


You provide more evidence to reinforce my points that I forgot to add. Thank you, good sir.
   
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Xca|iber wrote:Arrgh, what's with all these poll threads where the title is not the same as the poll question!?


All right, all right.

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BuFFo wrote:Dark Eldar, without contest.

The Dark Eldar can capture and transport STARS into pocket dimensions for powering entire, vast mega-cities. The Dark Eldar intentionally bring "weaker weapons" into combat because they want to spread ain into the ranks of their enemies. No other race does this as every other race brings their best weapons into combat. Dark Eldar leave the weapons that destroy armies at home because it isn't fun to simple press a button and suck a planet into a black hole... Which takes me into...

Dark Eldar can create/capture and use Black Holes and even confine their infinitely destructive properties into tiny spaces. Yeah, that last one right there pretty much cements it for me.


I support your point of view on DE tech.

But according to me, DE and necrons have a roughly equivalent tech level.

Both races can do extremely impressive feats of technology. The DE can capture stars, they can breed test tube babies on an industrial scale, have an insane weaponry, etc.

But the crons also have an insane weaponry, the best space ships of the entire galaxy and were even able to transfer their souls into living metal bodies.


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BuFFo wrote:Dark Eldar, without contest.

The Dark Eldar can capture and transport STARS into pocket dimensions for powering entire, vast mega-cities. The Dark Eldar intentionally bring "weaker weapons" into combat because they want to spread ain into the ranks of their enemies. No other race does this as every other race brings their best weapons into combat. Dark Eldar leave the weapons that destroy armies at home because it isn't fun to simple press a button and suck a planet into a black hole... Which takes me into...

Dark Eldar can create/capture and use Black Holes and even confine their infinitely destructive properties into tiny spaces. Yeah, that last one right there pretty much cements it for me.

Now, I am only going off fluff presented in codices. Necrons can travel faster than light, woopty do, and, um, well, that's about it. The Necrons are basically zombies guided by Gods. The Dark Eldar are just people doing things even the Necrons Gods cannot do. Necron Gods can slowly suck a Star dry of its energy to eat. Dark Eldar do the same thing, but with little ray guns

Point goes to Dark Eldar.

Of course this is all fiction which has no real canon, so this is just my opinion based on what I read from the codices.


Eldar? Effectively the same tech, made out of a more advanced material. I'm fairly certain the Necrons and the Mechanicum have weaponry as powerful but have not revealed it yet, in the case of the Necrons, and are not allowed to use many of their most powerful technologies because they are either too dangerous or they have at some point been forbidden from unleashing them, in the case of the Mechanicum. The Dark Eldar I agree are probably the most advanced, as the whole population has access to the advanced stuff. But they are on par with the Eldar, as every one of them has a very high standard of living.
   
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I am fairly new to 40k (And actually haven't read anything about the necron being advanced, yet. ), but this seems like a really complex question. I kind of want to say tau because in a overall sense they feel advanced. Drone AIs Laser designators, and mind control helmets come to mind. I also get the feeling they have better civilian tech because they use to to bribe people into surrendering. They are not the most advanced though. They can't use any tech that relies on the warp and that is a lot of tech that they are just incapable of using. I assume we count warp tech as tech and not just magic.

For a crazy idea, maybe orks are the most advanced. They can put two sticks together and make then shoot rockets. That is quite advanced.
   
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Laodamia wrote:I support your point of view on DE tech. But according to me, DE and necrons have a roughly equivalent tech level.

Both races can do extremely impressive feats of technology. The DE can capture stars, they can breed test tube babies on an industrial scale, have an insane weaponry, etc.

But the crons also have an insane weaponry


Remember, the Necrons bring their best weapons to war, Dark Eldar do not. Dark Eldar intentionally bring gimped weapons to war to have fun during battles. Necron gauss rifles are pretty scary stuff, and that alone would make Necrons carry the highest tech around, but we don't even know what the Dark Eldar can bear to war on an industrial scale. It's like comparing two people, one person brings the best baseball bat ever made to a game, while the other brings a whiffle ball bat, but at the moment, the person with the whiffle ball bat hits more home runs and wins more games.

Point goes to Dark Eldar.

I have always loved the idea of guass weaponry. hey do sound so very cool!

the best space ships of the entire galaxy


I guess? Point goes to Necrons.

and were even able to transfer their souls into living metal bodies.


Necron gods did this, not their technology. Dark Eldar are the only race known that uses actual technology to materialize and use "pain" as a weapon. Dark Eldar can also Shang Tsung souls into themselves and others through the use of weaponry and technology. Necrons can't in any form or fashion.

Point goes to Dark Eldar

iproxtaco wrote:Eldar? Effectively the same tech, made out of a more advanced material. I'm fairly certain the Necrons and the Mechanicum have weaponry as powerful but have not revealed it yet, in the case of the Necrons, and are not allowed to use many of their most powerful technologies because they are either too dangerous or they have at some point been forbidden from unleashing them, in the case of the Mechanicum. The Dark Eldar I agree are probably the most advanced, as the whole population has access to the advanced stuff. But they are on par with the Eldar, as every one of them has a very high standard of living.


Except for the transferring of souls, I don't see anything in the Eldar codex that even implies that they are on par or above Dark Eldar as far as technology goes. I will give Eldar the benefit of the doubt by saying they are the highest advanced in the field of melding technology and bio together to create wondrous things, but as far as 40k is concerned, Craftworld Eldar are dying out, and there really isn't much advancement going on with them.

Dark Eldar are better in the field of straight technology. Eldar are better in the field of mixing existing technology they have had for a long time with their psychic powers to create entirely new fields of technology. but I still don't see the Eldar creating black holes and lassoing suns for fun.

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