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i was reading the other day the GK codex and i noticed that none of the OSR fire options were barrage, the "barrage bomb" and "psyk-out bomb" were just ordenance, the "lace strike" was blast.
and here is my question: how can a massive bomb fired from a space ship not be a "barrage" weapon?

i hope it comes out in the errata

Because it's called down from a ground-level model.

Now, if the model calling it was up in orbit as well, then you'd be fine.

i see what you mean but that argument would make all barrage weapons not barrage mmmm if i said it right.
and as a precedent the orbital bombardment of a space marine chapter master is ordenance barrage

I would guess that they removed barrage so that the model calling the strike would require line of sight.

At least the "lance strike" has the 'lance' ability now.

Y'know, UNLIKE the last version.

"But it's called a "lance strike" ... What do you mean it's NOT a lance?"

Some kind of balance issue for the Orbital strike thing? Maybe barrage would make it too powerful?

I don't know. I don't take them. If I want to play "blat" I can play BFG and do planetary assault missions.

As you can have up to 5 orbital strike relays in a single GK army, it was most likeley a ballance issue(LoS requirement and granting cover).

maybe you are right and its a balancing issue.

@scott-s6
if that was the case then basilisks, mortars, some leman russes, etc, would cease to be barrage since all of them are on the ground level and as you said "the model calling the strike would require line of sight".

Those tanks take a penalty by using the barrage ability. The tanks are also a hell of a lot easier to destroy than some infantry models cowering out of los in terrain.

Making the orbital strike a barrage would make it far too easy to just hide some models out of sight and blast the board with templates.

They probably should have said either "treated as barrage for cover saves" or "barrage* *Calling model requires line of sight to the target".

Homer

mikhaila wrote:Those tanks take a penalty by using the barrage ability. The tanks are also a hell of a lot easier to destroy than some infantry models cowering out of los in terrain.

Making the orbital strike a barrage would make it far too easy to just hide some models out of sight and blast the board with templates.

You also have to remember that a Techmarine can also bolster defenses. That means he has a 2+ save and a 3+ cover whilst he calls down thunder on your head, if he is in that bolstered terrain. Add in some servo skulls (if they work for the Orbital relay) and that is a bucket of hurt. Screw the thunderfire I say.

Plus you can attach three of them to a unit, making it close to impossible to kill them by shooting.

Has any of you ever played Starwars Battlefront(1 or 2); in the first one, the sniper characters all had the ability to call down devastating strikes from orbit, while hidden.

It was one of my favorite tactics; go hide next to a Gonk droid(ammo resupply) and continuously send out recon droids to drop Orbital strikes on groups of enemies.

I would imagine that having the OSR being barrage would have a very similar issue: Hide out of LOS, fire strikes down at heavy tanks, always hitting them on side armor. Honestly; the barrage bomb and the Psy-out, are certainly not meant to be anti-tank shots, having the ability to crack virtually any Vehicle(Side AV13+ are the only ones exempt, and they are fairly rare), with anti-infantry rounds is a bit OTT