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**gamereaper3**

I am confused why some stuff for stats has a number in parentheses.

Example. My DC dreadnought has a attack stat of 3(4). I used the two blood talon option so how many attacks does he get?

**Jidmah**

The (4) means they already added the one bonus attack for two DCCW(blood talons). Numbers in () are always additions from wargear.

**Bloodhorror**

he gets 4

as the number in brackets applies if he has 2 Close Combat Weapons, in this case he does, so 4 attacks he gets with 5 on the charge.

That is Correct someone else yes?

**Jidmah**

Yup.

**gamereaper3**

Thank you!

**Bloodhorror**

You Ninjaed me 21 Seconds...

Blast...

**DeathReaper**

I have not found this explained anywhere in the rulebook.

I would(and do) play it as 4 attacks, with +1 on the charge.

**Kommissar Kel**

DeathReaper wrote:I have not found this explained anywhere in the rulebook.

I would(and do) play it as 4 attacks, with +1 on the charge.

This is correct; no such rule exists that states anywhere that the Parenthetical is taking into account the second DCCW; it is merely a Value that you use, and then get your bonus attack, you do not get your additional bonus attack if you replace 1 DCCW with a gun; but you do still get the parenthetical value.

The Orks codex does specify that a 3rd and 4th DCCW each adds an additional attack to the Deff dreads attacks(along with the 1 for starting with 2 DCCWs); so a Deffdread with 4 DCCWs gets 6 attacks, 7 on the Charge(3 base, +1 for the Stock 2 DCCW, +1 for the 3rd DCCW, +1 for the 4th DCCW= 6, then you can take that 6 +1 for the Charge=7).

**Jidmah**

DeathReaper wrote:I have not found this explained anywhere in the rulebook.

I would(and do) play it as 4 attacks, with +1 on the charge.

Actually it isn't for attacks, only for toughness. But if you look across codices, it is always used to represent a bonus provided by wargear.

**Mannahnin**

The parenthetical number does indicate an increase granted by wargear/equipment/weapons.

Due to GW's editorial failure, this is not actually explained in the 5th ed rules in relation to Attacks, only in relation to Toughness. But as Jidmah said, if you're a newer player you can figure it out from context.