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So I'm still fairly new to 40k. I have been collecting Orks though. I currently have:
HQ-Ghazzy, AoBR Warboss, Wierdboy, KFF Big Mek, Mad Dok.
Elite- 5 boxes of lootas/burnas unassembled, nobz box, painboy, 7 kommandos with 2 burnas and Snikrot.
Troops- 30+ shoota boyz, about 50 slugga boyz, 10 gretchin+1 runtherder .
Fast Attack- 6 AoBR koptas.
Heavy- 1 box of kans.

I'm looking to expand maybe spend about $200. My local store does have a mega force and I am considering it, I also think 3 battle wagons would be a good get. I'm open to all suggestions. The only thing I really don't like the looks of is the kan wall. I chose Orks because we run or drive headlong and fight not stroll under cover, although I did have a blast building the one kan I did make. I have a had a lot of success in the few games I've played with foot slogging, especially with Grotsnik in a unit of 30 boyz giving them FnP.

If you're looking for a direction as Orks, I'd recommend 'towards the enemy'. ;X
On a more related note, I don't know much about greenskins. Wheels seem to be handy from what I've read.

Looks like a Battlewagon army to me!

You've got Ghaz, Nobs, Burnas, Boys. Get 3-4 BW and load up! Do you have a Kustom Force Field Mek? Yes you do!

You can run some lootas, or Snik-commandos, and coptas with the BW army (maybe not all 3 - see what you like best) You can run Kans on one flank sometimes if you want - and you even have some grots to leave behind on your objective! Get some Wagons!

Or, you have enough money and enough boyz that you could probably field a pretty nasty Green Tide. Take a Warphead and Grotsnik, give some of your boyz 'eavy armour and Cybork a really, really tough 30 boy squad, and stomp them under your iron-shod boots.


Then again, with the Mad Dok and Ghazzy you could take a Deffwing full of Meganobz (if you don't mind buying or converting up a bunch) that'd actually match Termies with a 5+ save. Stick those in a Battlewagon...

But mostly I'm seeing Horde from what you have already. It's possible to buy a bunch of trukks and/or battlewagons to go Speed Freeks, though, if that's where you're aimed.

I'd recommend getting a dredd (since you have a mek and can take it as a troop choice) and maybe some more kanz.

The rest depends on your taste in armies. My personal taste leans towards mek-fluffy stuff like zzapp guns (i make my own), kanz, dredds and so on :0)

I also like doing greentide. AOBR orks may not be the most inspired sculpts, but they aren't bad. They are cheap to come by and can really help you bulk out your units.

I agree with Lost Boyz. Probably the best current Ork build is a Battlewagon based army (and really there's no question it's best if you don't want Kan Wall which really does hurt footsloggin' chances).

I'd nab 3 Battle Wagons and build an army from there.

At the very least get 2 or so, which will let you build some fairly competitive Ork options in the 1000-1250 range and help you get a feel for what the Battlewagons will do. You already have a lot of the optimal tools - shoota boyz, Ghaz, Lootas, KFF Mek, Burna Boyz.

The other thing to bear in mind with Orks.

Play them for fun, not for mathhammer. They can be highly vicious, but if you aren't allowing for their randomness and fun aspect it'll be no fun to play them

Mathhammer for orks is the hammer they go get to beat the *math* out of you

I have taken a 30 boy mob with Grotsnik with cybork and it was brutal. I took down 2 Assault Squads, an Assault Terminator Squad with Vulkan a Land Raider and beat down 1/2 a Tactical Terminator Squad before the end of the game and still had like 12 guys left in the unit. On Sunday I am going to try them again and a Warphead or Zogwort with a 30 man shoota squad. Have them supported by lootas. I do enjoy the green tide, but I have 2 issues with it. I hate moving all of them, it takes forever and it sucks in the beginning when I run them and roll like a 1 and end up moving all 30 guys 1 inch (though I guess I could just pull from the back and make sure the nob is in front). The other thing I don't like is it requires a lot of boyz and outside of expanding to a kan wall I just don't need that many. I am a little intimidated by building the vehicles but gotta start somewhere.

Nice thing about playing orks

If you do a not so great job of putting together a battlewagon it is far easier to pass off than muffing an eldar or tau vehicle. Orks stuff is meant to look badly put together anyway

Forward tends to be a good direction for orks...

Yeah, I could see an entire army of Max sized squads of Cybork Boyz, one with 'eavy Armour, led by the Dok and Zogwort, absolutely wrecking face. In 1000 points, you'd be able to take Zoggy, Da Mad Dok, and two 30 boy Cybork mobz (one for each!), with about 35 points left over for nobz and special weapons. And since a full 30 cybork squad costs 330 points, bare, you'd be able to add a squad for pretty much every 'tier', getting more spare each time for goodies like Burna Boyz or Nob Squads.

Kan walls are pretty awesome, but as you said... you don't particularly like that build.

Really it looks like you have 3 ways to go.

1.) More boyz... and I mean ALOT of boyz, you can regularly field 150+ boyz at 1500pts... Its bloody nasty.
2.) Loads of Trucks ~6-8 (I don't suggest this as I refuse to field boy squads with less than 20 models.)
3.) Deffrolla Battlewagons x3-4 (Deffrollas are arguably the strongest piece of gear in the ork codex.)

Personally I'd suggest running:
1.) Deffrolla Battlewagon w/ a 10 ork nob squad with painboy and ghaz
2.) Deffrolla Battlewagon w/ 19 boyz + PK Nob
3.) Deffrolla Battlewagon w/ 19 boyz + PK Nob
4.) Deffrolla Battlewagon 15 boy burna squad

4x battlewagons $62 per or $186 w/ 25% off
4x deffrollas $13 per or $39 w/ 25% off
15 boy bodies to make burnas out of $~1 per off bitz sight

So if you wait for good deals or convince your FLGS to hook you up for an order over $200, you'd be around $240 to make one &*^% off a nasty ork list.

2 shokk attack gunz.

Now the fun really begins.

Either you'll vape them in some hilarious way or teleport yourself into close combat with a unit of very suprised terminators Either way it's hilarious

Well since I have an option for a megaforce how would this work.

Grotsnik
Warphead or Zogwortz
30 Slugga Mobs with Grotsnik, cyborked or 'ard or not Nob, PK (no bosspole needed as Grotsnik makes them Fearless
30 Shoota Mobs with the Psyker, Nob w/PK, BP possible cyborked or 'ard or not
1-2 units of Lootas
Possible Kommandos with Snikrot (3 named would be awesome!)
Nob Bikers, painboy diversified the whole sha-bang
Unit of Gretchin for objective sitting
Few warbuggies, koptas, maybe few kannons or looted wagon with boomguns where I can have the points.

The problem with Grotsnik is he can be kited, but hopefully I can neutralize that between lootas, nob bikers and warphead throwing out Zzzap or deep striking nearby to tie up any threat.

Maybe something like this at 1500:

Mad Dok Grotsnik 160

Warphead 85

Lootasx15 225

Nobzx7 -Painboy, Waaagh! Banner, BP, PK, PK & Kombi-Rokkit, Big Choppa, Big Choppa & Kombi-Rokkit. Cybork Bodies, Warbikes 320

Ork Boyzx30-Sluggas -Nob -PK 215

Ork Boyzx30-Shootas -Nob -PK -BP -Big Shootax3 235

Gretchinx16 -Runtherdx1 58

Deffkopta -TL Rokkit -Buzzsaw 70
Deffkopta -TL Rokkit -Buzzsaw 70

Kannon 20
Kannon 20
Kannon 20

1498

Not really sure how to run big guns and with what equipment/options. I started this list with cybork on the boyz mobs and with no kannons or deffkoptas, I was worried there was a lack of Anti Tank, but now I am wondering if there is too much between the Warphead (never know when Zzzap will happen), all the PK going on, the kannons and the possible early kopta rokkit/buzzsaw first strike. There is even a chance for those Big Choppas to pen a rear AV 10 Chimera, LRBT, Rhino or Predator.

If you're not gonna take advantage of the Dok's army-wide Cybork rules, you probably won't want to take him. Swap him out for Zogwort (two Warpheads! Yaaaay!) or a Warboss or KFF big mek.

Either take the Lootas or the Kannons (and if the Kannons, think about doubling the guns in each squad), then with the left over points you should have enough for some cyborky shenanigans.

Ghazz and Zogwort could be a horrific combo. SHove that with around 120 (6x20) or 150 (6x25) boyz and ruin people. Snikky and some kommandos with burnas, toos in the lootas and gretchin given space, and just run across the field causing untold carnage Green Horde is definately more fitting but I can sympathise for the dislike of shifting so many models You might want to get hold of base plates or create your own so you shift plates of boyz rather than each model.

I really like the idea of the Nob Bikers, Grotsnik and Zogworts. I know this is not the list forum but thanks to all for the information. I think I am leaning:

Mad Dok Grotsnik 160
Zogwort 145

Lootasx15 225
Nobzx7 -Painboy, Waaagh! Banner, PK & BP, PK, PK & Kombi-Rokkit, Big Choppa, Big Choppa & Kombi-Rokkit. Cybork Bodies, Warbikes 345

Ork Boyzx30-Sluggas -Ard Boyz -Nob -PK 335 <--Grotsnik
Ork Boyzx30-Shootas -Nob -PK -BP -Big Shootax3 235 <--Zogwort
Gretchinx15 -Runtherdx1 55

1500

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Mad Dok Grotsnik 160
Zogwort 145

Lootasx5 75
Lootasx5 75
Nobzx9 -Painboy, Waaagh! Banner, PK & BP, PK, PK & Kombi-Rokkit, Big Choppa, Big Choppa & Kombi-Rokkit, Big Choppa & Kombi-Rokkit & Ammo Runt, Slugga/Choppa Cybork Bodies, Warbikes 408

Ork Boyzx30-Sluggas -Ard Boyz -Nob -PK 335
Ork Boyzx30-Shootas -Nob -PK -BP -Big Shootax3 235
Gretchinx19 -Runtherdx1 67

1500

I think Nob Bikers aren't a worthy investment for your list. Think about it - you're pumping a lot of points into a big unit that can easily be used up elsewhere. I think more boyz would do you wonders. Could try more mobs of 20 instead of 30 with the PK/BP nob leaders and see how many you can cram in. 2 5-man Loota squads and 19 gretchin+runtherd is probs good to keep. Oh and cyborks man You're using grotsnik, rack up the cyborks, otherwise you may as well take Ghazz instead.

Im going to have to go with the majority here and say Battlewagons as well.

In my opinion battlewagons are, quite literally, the way forward My orks aren't getting much attention at the moment, and the army is a ragtag beast, but when i get round to it I'll be getting lots of boyz in battlewagons with deffrollas, combined with some warbikers, deffkoptas and prehaps stormboyz or kommandos, I'll be able to make a very fast list. Orks + Speed = Good. One of the disadvantages of orks is that they get shot on the way to combat, with lots of transports it tends not to happen too much, which is a very good thing. I'd reccomend this method.

However I can also see a horde list emerging from you collection of minis there. You've got plenty of boyz, a strong fighty unit in the form of ghaz and nobz and a KFF Mek to protect da boyz.

As others have picked up on, you could field Ghaz and Grotsnik, which, for the reasons explained by the other posters, are a very nasty combo, always worth considering that. It's nasty but also something different.

How to choose a direction in a Orky way:


You're a Nob that want directions, tell your boys to gather round and throw a choppa skywards. Where it lands (probably in the head of a Boy) it will produce screams of pain, and sprint in that direction yelling WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!


Jokes aside:


I'll go with Trukks

OK thank you for all the information everyone. I am leaning toward this progression with my army:

Warboss -PK -Cybork -Attack Squig 110
Big Mek -KFF 85

Lootasx5 75
Lootasx5 75
Burnasx15 225

Nobzx9 -Painboy, Waaagh! Banner, PK & BP, PK & Kombi-Rokkit, Big Choppa, Big Choppa & Kombi-Rokkit, Kombi-Rokkit & Ammo Runt, Kombi-Rokkit, Naked -Cybork Bodies 358
Ork Boyzx19 -Nob -PK -BP 154
Gretchinx10 -Runtherdx1 40

Battlewagonx3 -DeffRolla, Big Shoota, Armor Plates 375

1497
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Ghazghkull 225
Big Mek -KFF -PK 110

Lootasx5 75
Lootasx5 75
Burnasx15 225

Nobzx9 -Painboy, Waaagh! Banner, PK & BP, PK & Kombi-Rokkit, Big Choppa, Big Choppa & Kombi-Rokkit, Kombi-Rokkit & Ammo Runt, Kombi-Rokkit, Naked -Cybork Bodies 358
Ork Boyzx19 -Nob -PK -BP 154
Gretchinx17 -Runtherdx1 61
Gretchinx17 -Runtherdx1 61

Battlewagonx3 -DeffRolla, Big Shoota, Grabbin' Klaw, Boarding Plank, Armor Plates 405

1749
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Ghazghkull 225
Big Mek -KFF -PK 110

Lootasx5 75
Lootasx5 75
Burnasx15 225

Nobzx9 -Painboy, Waaagh! Banner, PK & BP, PK & Kombi-Rokkit, Big Choppa, Big Choppa & Kombi-Rokkit, Kombi-Rokkit & Ammo Runt, Kombi-Rokkit, Naked -Cybork Bodies 358
Ork Boyzx19 -Nob -PK -BP 154
Ork Boyzx12-Nob -PK -BP -Trukk 147
Gretchinx11 -Runtherdx1 43
Gretchinx11 -Runtherdx1 43

Battlewagonx3 -DeffRolla, Big Shoota, Grabbin' Klaw, Boarding Plank, Armor Plates 405

Deffkopta -TL Rokkit -Buzzsaw 70
Deffkopta -TL Rokkit -Buzzsaw 70

1999