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hello this is gona be my new shoot list for tornuments but i feel i lack a bitt vs Rush armys or Drop pod armys. but i think it is overall quit nice. id love to get inn a 3 drop pod so i can drop 2 clads inn first round but i can get that for som tournaments witch is 1850 her inn norway

Master of the Forge 100
Conversion Beamer 20p
Total 120p

Tactical Squad1 90 (5)
razerback 40p
Lascannon and twin-linked plasma gun 35p
Total 165p

Tactical Squad2 90 (5)
razerback 40p
Lascannon and twin-linked plasma gun 35p
Total 165p

Tactical Squad3 90 (5)
razerback 40p
Lascannon and twin-linked plasma gun 35p
Total 165p

Land Speeder Squadron1 100 (2)
2xMulti-melta 10p
2xA Typhoon Missile launcher 40p
Total 200p

Land Speeder Squadron1 100 (2)
2xMulti-melta 10p
2xA Typhoon Missile launcher 40p
Total 200p

Predator1 60
Lasscanon Sponsons 60p
exstra armor 15p
Total 135p

Predator2 60
Lasscanon Sponsons 60p
exstra armor 15p
Total 135p

Predator3 60
Lasscanon Sponsons 60p
Total 120p

IronClade Dreadnought1 135
Drop Pode
Total 170p

IronClade Dreadnought2 135
Drop Pode
Total 170p

depend on army i pop the forge inn a razerback to keep safe first rounds or just cover save him inn som cover.

any feedback, posetiv or negeativ pls post

No one got anything good or bad vs this army or?

You can't get a heavy or special weapon on a Tac Squad unless you 1st add the other 5 marines (squad size 10).
Your actual total for the squad would be @230pts, not 165.

The Tactical Squads are a bet meh because Space Marine codex doesn't do Razor spam well because you need 10 men to get a special and them combat squad which costs more points. Also las/plas aren't that good in this codex because you can only move and fire one weapon, las/plas is best in Angel codex because they're fast vehicles.

Why have the Typhoons got multi meltas for? The Typhoons sit back and shoot which means the multi melta won't be in range. Drop the multi melta and if anything take the heavy bolter as the frags can threaten infantry. They also shouldn't be in squadrons so just take three only to max fast attack.

Preds don't need extra armour as they're still not shooting and can only relocate. Only way they're going to be assaulted if by outflankers and you'll move and still not shoot.

Only two Drop Pods means one Pod will come down unsupported and will be in trouble. You really need a third, badly.

dkellyj wrote:You can't get a heavy or special weapon on a Tac Squad unless you 1st add the other 5 marines (squad size 10).
Your actual total for the squad would be @230pts, not 165.

The las and TL Plas are on the razorback, not the squad inside.

I'd agree to dropping the extra armor on the preds. Also, it doesn't look like you've got much anti-infantry. What's your plan there?

As far as the combi-preds go, I was doing a little math for my list last night and found that for only a few points more you can have rifleman dreads that are actually better at shooting, 4 TL S7 shots as opposed to 2 S7 and 2 S9 shots not TL. Dreads are also easier to get cover for and can tie up infantry if needed.

I'd recommend considering swapping the combi-preds for a dakka-pred and two TLAC-toting dreads.

i agree w/ mercer Razorspam doesn't work that well. I just started playing and was like !rhinos with cannons!OMG and put all my tacs in Razorbacks just to watch the turrets get blown off or the transport get stunned and my precious marines stuck on the front lines without backup. but im also really new to the game and probably shouldn't of sent them down the middle of the board....

im also +1 on Gavin Thorne's idea about rifleman dreads, i love the math behind them and just purchased a dread to convert for that very role.

i try out the rifel dreds and i can se why lass plass dont work playd 3 games and dident sell me on it

Stormcallers wrote:i agree w/ mercer Razorspam doesn't work that well. I just started playing and was like !rhinos with cannons!OMG and put all my tacs in Razorbacks just to watch the turrets get blown off or the transport get stunned and my precious marines stuck on the front lines without backup. but im also really new to the game and probably shouldn't of sent them down the middle of the board....

im also +1 on Gavin Thorne's idea about rifleman dreads, i love the math behind them and just purchased a dread to convert for that very role.

No, I said las/plas doesn't work well in the Space Marine codex and given a reason why and also Razor spam doesn't work in that codex, which I have said why. Razorbacks work pefectly well (I use them myself) and the only advantage a Rhino has over a Razorback is weapon destroyed as it will just take out the storm bolter. If the Rhino is stunned/shaken it or the squad cannot fire like the Razorback.

Razorback spam works in Angel and Wolf armies the best, probably Angels thanks to fast vehicles and vehicle discount from Assault Squads.

The Tactical Squads are a bet meh because Space Marine codex doesn't do Razor spam well because you need 10 men to get a special and them combat squad which costs more points.

sorry i just saw that and thought you ment razorspam doesnt do well. I was strictly speaking about codex space marines because i havn't played anything else.

idk i dont have luck with it because instead of a couple 10 man squad up front i have just 2 squads of 5 or 6.

No, that's why I said Space Marine codex .

Reason Angels do it better is thanks to Sanguinary Priests who make those small 5 man units last a huge while longer thanks to feel no pain. Plus they can hit hard in assault as well