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Viielfachwerfer, Reihenwerfer, or just Nebelwerfers? Does any one of these units have an obvious advantage over the others? Any thoughts?

Two Reihenwerfers will provide smoke bombardments and are thematic. They're also a weapon platoon so you can kampfgroup them. Nebs are useful in almost any German list.

George Spiggott wrote:Two Reihenwerfers will provide smoke bombardments and are thematic. They're also a weapon platoon so you can kampfgroup them. Nebs are useful in almost any German list.[/quote

The final vote might come down to what I can pick up at Triples, and if its all three I'll still be stuffed to choose.

ArbeitsSchu wrote:

George Spiggott wrote:Two Reihenwerfers will provide smoke bombardments and are thematic. They're also a weapon platoon so you can kampfgroup them. Nebs are useful in almost any German list.[/quote

The final vote might come down to what I can pick up at Triples, and if its all three I'll still be stuffed to choose.

Reihenwerfers don't appear to be "Armoured Rocket Launchers" (in the rules sense) but Vielfachwerfers are, so they can Stormtroop.

They're both AT 2 FP 6, the same as an 8cm GW34 mortar (or a rifle team in most situations for that matter) so neither of them will be killing much. Experienced opponents will spread out to avoid multiple hits or dig in to force firepower checks and thus limit kills.

All this means that their only uses will be pinning and smoke bombardments. Vielfachwerfers may be able to avoid counter battery fire with their Stormtrooper move but if all they can do is pin or kill infantry in the open then they're not worth taking IMO.

Ask a Soviet player (Soviets never have access to smoke bombardment) how good smoke is. Smoke is critical for artillery that isn't expected to kill anything with regular bombardments.

Problem is that (smoke aside) the other options are more expensive to achieve a similar level of ability. Regular artillery costs twice as much for four guns, lorraine schlepper arty might as well be made of gold and mithril. panzerwerfer are again double the cost, Seems the lack of smoke is what makes vielfachwerfer the budget option. Reihenwerfer suffer from only being two teams or double the price. Given that I'm limited to about 150pts tops...

(This is all if I assume staying with an Infantry company as base. Moving to a tank company organisation changes things considerably.)


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170pts as it turns out, Not enough for four multiple mortars.

Kind of hard to make a call without knowing what else you have in your list.

Its a small Infantry force at the moment. CO/2iC with panzerfausts, small HMG unit, 3 Panzer IV and a 2 team grenadier unit, which comes to 600pts, give or take. (Using the Monty's Meatgrinder 21st Panzer list.) We're cranking it up a notch to 1000pts, and one of the things I'd like to try is artillery of some sort. Of that 400pts, some has to go on the second grenadier unit (145pts if memory serves.) I think thats everything so far.

600 poitns can be a hard list to put together but is one of my favorite size lists. At 600 I never use any artillery and most people I play with don't either unless it's mortors. You really don't have enough points for any kind of artty that's very effective other than for smoke and pinning. I don't have any books with me right now so I am not sure what your options are. Keep this in mind though if you only take two of something you have to re-roll succesful hits so if you opt for neblewerfers 3 or are a must.. IMO if your gonna use artillary use something that can acttualy do damage like 10.5's. Wish I had the book here so I could be of more help. Good luck.