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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/05 23:35:01
Subject: Base Size, Objectives
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Bonkers Buggy Driver with Rockets
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Simple question, and I'm at work, or would consult my rule book: Is there a standard/customary sized base for objective markers in Warhammer 40K? I ask because the tournament I soon will attend requires that three be brought.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/05 23:43:07
Subject: Base Size, Objectives
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[MOD]
Making Stuff
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Your best bet is to check with the tournament organiser, then.
There is no set size. Tournaments commonly use anything from 25mm to 60mm bases for their objectives.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/05 23:52:26
Subject: Base Size, Objectives
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Stealthy Grot Snipa
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No preset thing but people will object if you put Orks on a 60Mm base its fine for the Characters and the like.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/05 23:54:26
Subject: Base Size, Objectives
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Bonkers Buggy Driver with Rockets
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InquisitorVaron wrote:No preset thing but people will object if you put Orks on a 60Mm base its fine for the Characters and the like.
Ah, I meant "objectives" as in terrain to capture for points in a game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/06 00:06:46
Subject: Base Size, Objectives
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[MOD]
Making Stuff
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InquisitorVaron wrote:No preset thing but people will object if you put Orks on a 60Mm base its fine for the Characters and the like.
There most certainly are rules for base sizes on models. The question was about mission objectives, though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/06 00:22:49
Subject: Base Size, Objectives
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Fixture of Dakka
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Personally I have 3-5 objectives for 25mm, 40mm and 60mm...
You can't go wrong with 25mm because if you need to upsize you can by blue-tacing to a larger base but downsizing is harder.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/06 00:46:43
Subject: Base Size, Objectives
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
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nkelsch wrote:Personally I have 3-5 objectives for 25mm, 40mm and 60mm...
You can't go wrong with 25mm because if you need to upsize you can by blue-tacing to a larger base but downsizing is harder.
I did something similar or you can grab some stick tack and stick on a larger base if needed. Mine are 25mm normally but making them larger is very easy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/06 05:33:00
Subject: Base Size, Objectives
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Tilter at Windmills
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40mm is the most common I see.
25mm next.
I almost never see bigger.
There is no official rule. Each tournament will have to spell it out if they want to be consistent.
I have attended tournaments in several different US states which specified 40mm, and multiple different events where poker chips were used as well, which are ~40mm.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/06 21:07:46
Subject: Base Size, Objectives
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Lord of the Fleet
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I prefer the reading of the rules which states that objectives are a "point". As such, you would always measure to the centre of the marker.
If you measure to the edges then the size of the marker affects how many models you need to keep an enemy from contesting without assaulting or tank shocking.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/06 23:05:32
Subject: Base Size, Objectives
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Tilter at Windmills
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Scott-S6 wrote:I prefer the reading of the rules which states that objectives are a "point". As such, you would always measure to the centre of the marker.
The actual wording of the mission rules makes clear that it is not a geometric "point". It's a larger "point" in the military sense, like "point of departure", "rendezvous point", or "rallying point". A place where people can gather. Neither a counter nor a "detail of a terrain feature" can be a geometric point.
Scott-S6 wrote:If you measure to the edges then the size of the marker affects how many models you need to keep an enemy from contesting without assaulting or tank shocking.
Certainly. Which is why well-organized tournaments usually either provide their own objective markers, or specify the size of the objective markers players are required to bring.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/05/06 23:05:56
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More 2010-2014 GT/Major RTT Record (W/L/D) -- CSM: 78-20-9 // SW: 8-1-2 (Golden Ticket with SW), BA: 29-9-4 6th Ed GT & RTT Record (W/L/D) -- CSM: 36-12-2 // BA: 11-4-1 // SW: 1-1-1
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A better way to score Sportsmanship in tournaments
The 40K Rulebook & Codex FAQs. You should have these bookmarked if you play this game.
The Dakka Dakka Forum Rules You agreed to abide by these when you signed up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/07 08:39:34
Subject: Base Size, Objectives
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Lord of the Fleet
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Mannahnin wrote: Neither a counter nor a "detail of a terrain feature" can be a geometric point.
No, but they can be markers for that point. Nothing suggests measuring to the edges of an area.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/07 19:03:26
Subject: Re:Base Size, Objectives
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Wicked Warp Spider
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I would go for 25mm or 40mm, and if that area is too small, then say the capture zone extends to the required amount.
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Then Horus comes across the lone grot, somehow managing to kill the Emperor, and punts it into space. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/07 19:57:30
Subject: Base Size, Objectives
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Tilter at Windmills
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Scott-S6 wrote:Mannahnin wrote: Neither a counter nor a "detail of a terrain feature" can be a geometric point.
No, but they can be markers for that point. Nothing suggests measuring to the edges of an area.
I am afraid you are incorrect on this occasion, sir.
Page 91 wrote:As different objectives vary in shape and size, it is important to agree at the beginning of the game exactly where this distance will be measured from.
A geometric point never varies in size or shape. According to the rulebook, 40k objectives do.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/05/07 19:57:47
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More 2010-2014 GT/Major RTT Record (W/L/D) -- CSM: 78-20-9 // SW: 8-1-2 (Golden Ticket with SW), BA: 29-9-4 6th Ed GT & RTT Record (W/L/D) -- CSM: 36-12-2 // BA: 11-4-1 // SW: 1-1-1
DT:70S++++G(FAQ)M++B++I+Pw40k99#+D+++A+++/sWD105R+++T(T)DM+++++
A better way to score Sportsmanship in tournaments
The 40K Rulebook & Codex FAQs. You should have these bookmarked if you play this game.
The Dakka Dakka Forum Rules You agreed to abide by these when you signed up.
Maelstrom's Edge! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/07 23:08:28
Subject: Base Size, Objectives
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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If its not a point (as in geometic point in space type point) then there's nothing stopping me saying this 4x2 slab is an 'objective' thereby breaking the game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/07 23:20:04
Subject: Base Size, Objectives
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Nothing except:
1) Opponents can just refuse to play you. Say "good game" and look for someone who actually wants to play
2) Tournament organisers can look at you funny, ask if you're serious, and if you say "yes" remove you from the tournament for being TFG
It's not difficult. This game is a social contract; break it at your peril.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/08 00:07:00
Subject: Base Size, Objectives
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Sinewy Scourge
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I've always played it where as long as all the objective markers are the same size its ok. Thats why I always bring 5 objectives which are on 25mm bases. I can see someone crying foul if they brought 25mm bases for their objective markers and the opponent bringing 60mm bases for his.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/08 00:49:18
Subject: Base Size, Objectives
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Tilter at Windmills
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Phototoxin wrote:If its not a point (as in geometic point in space type point) then there's nothing stopping me saying this 4x2 slab is an 'objective' thereby breaking the game.
Nothing except the rulebook explicitly telling you that you need to agree at the beginning of the game. If you can find an opponent who will agree to that, you can have a party.
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Adepticon 2015: Team Tourney Best Imperial Team- Team Ironguts, Adepticon 2014: Team Tourney 6th/120, Best Imperial Team- Cold Steel Mercs 2, 40k Championship Qualifier ~25/226
More 2010-2014 GT/Major RTT Record (W/L/D) -- CSM: 78-20-9 // SW: 8-1-2 (Golden Ticket with SW), BA: 29-9-4 6th Ed GT & RTT Record (W/L/D) -- CSM: 36-12-2 // BA: 11-4-1 // SW: 1-1-1
DT:70S++++G(FAQ)M++B++I+Pw40k99#+D+++A+++/sWD105R+++T(T)DM+++++
A better way to score Sportsmanship in tournaments
The 40K Rulebook & Codex FAQs. You should have these bookmarked if you play this game.
The Dakka Dakka Forum Rules You agreed to abide by these when you signed up.
Maelstrom's Edge! |
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