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2011/05/08 15:17:34
Subject: deathleaper and gk
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Can the deathleaper reduce ld on gkss? Does it count as one psyker?
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2011/05/08 15:43:20
Subject: Re:deathleaper and gk
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Doesn't Deathleaper's ability only affect characters?
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2011/05/08 16:09:37
Subject: deathleaper and gk
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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Deathleapers rule affects a "single enemy character"
What they mean by that is anybody's guess.
That could mean Independent Character, but it just says character, so who knows what they mean by that.
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"Did you notice a sign out in front of my chapel that said "Land Raider Storage"?" -High Chaplain Astorath the Grim Redeemer of the Lost.
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2011/05/08 16:40:20
Subject: deathleaper and gk
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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"Its after me" can ONLY affect characters. It has no special ability vs psykers.
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2011/05/08 19:31:03
Subject: deathleaper and gk
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Well I'm referring to the squad acting on the justicar's ld for psychic tests as a single psychic unit. Is it a character?
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2011/05/08 19:40:39
Subject: deathleaper and gk
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Veteran Inquisitorial Tyranid Xenokiller
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I think the rule is intended to reduce the leadership of an IC, you could argue it could be used against a GK Justicar, but then I would just use the reg Ld for the rest of the squad.
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2011/05/08 20:03:54
Subject: Re:deathleaper and gk
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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IC's are a bit limited as you have models like Mephiston that is not an independent character or a Hive Tyrant that is monstrous creature. Hell or upgrade characters for squads.
'Character' is a very ambiguous term that isn't clearly defined (if at all) in the rule book, so I'll have to agree with DeathReaper.
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2011/05/08 21:35:32
Subject: deathleaper and gk
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Scuttling Genestealer
Auburn WA USA
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Independent Character models
Special Character (Unique) models
Upgrade Character (unit leader) models
Any one of these can be affected by a Deathleaper. Characters are detailed on pages 47-49 of the main rulebook.
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2011/05/08 21:48:57
Subject: deathleaper and gk
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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triplare wrote:Independent Character models
Special Character (Unique) models
Upgrade Character (unit leader) models
Any one of these can be affected by a Deathleaper. Characters are detailed on pages 47-49 of the main rulebook.
Can I get a rules Quote where you got this from?
I couldn't find anything that let unique, non IC models, be counted as characters.
All I found on P.49 was special characters can be Independent or Upgrade characters. This is saying that Special Characters are either Upgrade or Independent characters. It makes no provision for non IC, non Upgrade models.
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"Did you notice a sign out in front of my chapel that said "Land Raider Storage"?" -High Chaplain Astorath the Grim Redeemer of the Lost.
I sold my soul to the devil and now the bastard is demanding a refund!
We do not have an attorney-client relationship. I am not your lawyer. The statements I make do not constitute legal advice. Any statements made by me are based upon the limited facts you have presented, and under the premise that you will consult with a local attorney. This is not an attempt to solicit business. This disclaimer is in addition to any disclaimers that this website has made.
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2011/05/08 21:49:42
Subject: deathleaper and gk
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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A Justicar is an Upgrade character, and so while alive you can affect his Ld and, as the psychic test is taken by the Justicar, it would affect the psychic test.
Probably a waste, though. As you have to nominate the character you want to affect and cant change when they die.
Special characters can also be upgrade or Independent, but dont HAVE to be.
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2011/05/08 22:31:45
Subject: Re:deathleaper and gk
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