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A friend and I ran into a little trouble with the rules for Night Goblin Fanatics yesterday. I had broken a unit of goblins in CC and they ran, as goblins often do. However, three of his own fanatics (from another unit) were behind him, and he fled through them. Here's where the rules trouble comes up:

The core rulebook says that friendlies run around and through one another while fleeing, but the O&G book says that "any unit" that comes into contact with a Fanatic is hit.

We -obviously- disagreed on the interpretation, him looking to the core rules and I to his armybook's literal wording of "any unit." Finally dwarven stubbornness won out and his unit died to the fanatics, but I'd like to know if I owe him a beer for getting that one wrong

So, what do you folks think?

Armybook trumps Rulebook. Fanatics are dangerous things to have around.

Any unit means ANY unit.

You may want to buy him a beer so he can drown is sorrows.

Since he ran into them, its 1d6 hits + 1d6 hits for fantics death swing. thats 2d6 hits for each fantic he ran though.

If Fact buy him a beer for each wound he did.. Only seems fair.


Artiee,
OnG War Boss.

Artee wrote:You may want to buy him a beer so he can drown is sorrows.

Since he ran into them, its 1d6 hits + 1d6 hits for fantics death swing. thats 2d6 hits for each fantic he ran though.

If Fact buy him a beer for each wound he did.. Only seems fair.


Artiee,
OnG War Boss.

I'll round up and make it a case, the poor guy lost the nine remaining gobbos and his level 2 shaman to 20+ wounds. The worst part was that the only other damage the lil buggers did that game was to his unit of squig hoppers

*Hurk* Poor bastards! This is one reason I can't bring myself to play OnG. I just couldn't take that kind of heart break.

Fanatics only die when you end your move on them.

...so, I think that if he rolled low to flee, he'd have stopped and killed them all. But I'm not familiar with the new book. The BRB says that fleeing units will end their move 1" away from other units, if their move would leave them overlapping. But the Codex overrules.

Still, 3d6 hits will most likely finish off the remaining goblins.

OnG are crazy like that. But the craziness can work in your favor, too. I have:

- turned a unit of 40 Eternal Guard with a BSB carrying the Banner of Aeriel into...just the BSB. Via him charging me.

- Foot of Gork'd a Hydra, an Assassin, and a Dark Elf Supreme Sorceress into paste with one mighty stomp.

- killed a Herald of Khorne BSB riding a Juggernaut with a Doom Diver.

And so on. So...it balances out. But bringing some beers would probably be a good idea; for yourself, or for your opponent.

Warpsolution wrote:
- turned a unit of 40 Eternal Guard with a BSB carrying the Banner of Aeriel into...just the BSB. Via him charging me.

"Forward my brothers, for Athel Loren! YAAAaaahhh uh... Brothers?... Guys?... oh sh-!"

Side question, does wind blasting a unit onto a fanatic cause the same kind of hurt?

Warpsolution wrote:Fanatics only die when you end your move on them.

That was the old book.. The new book says, Fanatic dies if any unit moves into contact. Same with the Mangler Squigs btw.


Its always best to launch the fantaics out during a charge... I HATE Flyers.

Yep, they changed how fanatics work. If you charge a NH unit and the fanatics arent out, youre likely taking 6D6 hits...

Windblasting would also cause fanatic death throws, as you would be moving into the fanatic.

As someone who likes heavens i approve of this change.