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Hi!

Last night me and a friend played a game of warhammer40K: Space Marines (Scout heavy) vs. Orks (Battlewagon heavy).
We came up with a strange situation and I wondered if we played this right.

Both an Ork boy mob and a Scout squad (Shotguns) were standing in area terrain, all models standing two inches apart.
The Scouts fired their Shotguns and managed to wound twice. And as my boys were standing in area terrain I claimed a 4+ cover save.
This is where my opponent stopped me, and pointed me to page 22 of the rule book. Halfway the page there is a passage called 'firing out of terrain'.
I quote:

'Models that are inside area terrain firing out will position themselves with
good fields of vision. Therefore they may fire through
up to 2" of area terrain they are occupying
without that terrain conferring a cover save to the target.'

According to this rule the Orks should not get a cover save, as the are claiming those from being in area terrain, which the rule above (quite explicitly) ignores.
We figured that this rule was indented to ignore TLOS, and therefore played that the Orks did get their save, but RAW I think we did it wrong.

So, Dakkadakka, has this ever happened in one of your battles? And could you help us out?

Feluca

That entire heading is under:

Firing out of terrain

You were not firing out of area terrain, therefore that line does not apply.

Damn, how could miss that!
Thank you alot!

Yup, think of it this way.

If a unit is in Area terrain, it will get their cover save, period (unless something hits it that negates cover saves)

The 2 inch rule only applies to units not in area terrain that is benig shot at by a unit IN area terrain.

Wow, you guys are fast! And I kinda feel stupid for just not reading the title of the passage, while quoting it! thanks again!

Thats ok, thats what YMDC is for

Noone here knows every rule, so dont be worried that there are gaps. Its a BIG ruleset!