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Alright, so I am looking at figuring out what I want to make for a next army to collect. In order to help my decisions, I have decided to come up with a list for the armies that I currently have the codex for and see if I know the basics of the armies, and then see if I can build an effective strategy for said army. That being said, this is my chaos army!
(Also, I love Abaddon, and his Black Legion, as such, he is included in my army, but is by no means a must have for my list, if it must be dropped, then it must be dropped)

HQ - 275
Abaddon the Despoiler

Troops - 1023
7x Plague Marines
- 2x Melta Guns
- Champion
- - Power Fist
- Dedicated Rhino w/ Havoc Launcher

7x Plague Marines
- 2x Melta Guns
- Champion
- - Power Fist
- Dedicated Rhino w/ havoc Launcher

8x Khorne Berzerkers
- Champion
- - Power Fist
- Dedicated Rhino w/ Havoc Launcher

8x Khorne Berzerkers
- Champion
- - Power Fist
- Dedicated Rhino w/ Havoc Launcher

Elite - 430
4x Terminators
- Khorne
- 4x Dual lightning claws
- Dedicated Land Raider w/ Possession

Heavy Support - 260
Predator
- Sponson Lascannons

Predator
- Sponson Lascannons

total = 1988

Can't seem to find myself a good use for those last 12 points. So, well... I said I needed advice

But critical, how much does it need to change?

Here are my suggestions... the Terminators and Zerkers are not stopping to shoot, and are moving 12". The LR with possession at least gets to shoot beause of DP, even if it is at a BS3. But this means the Havoc Launchers are not being used.

Take those 30pts and the 12pts you have left over and your up to 42pts.

Now you need to figure out what your doing with your Plague marines. Are you camping objectives with them or rushing up to provide meltagun support for your mech? If your rushing, the Havocs are not worth it. If your camping, you might want to consider going to Plasma with one unit, but I like the Havocs then as anti-infantry weapons. Just remember that it isn't gonna do alot against marines unless the guy rolls bad. If you decide to go plasma guns for a plague unit, I suggest dropping the havoc for a combi-melta on the Rhino or on the Champ. On a Melta unit, look at adding a combi-plasma to the Champ (remember the rapid fire rules).

For the 42pts, you can add 2 combi-meltas to the Zerker Rhinos (to give them something for anti-mech). I would then upgrade a Plague Squad to Plasmaguns for 10pts (from the meltas) and give the Champ a Combi-Melta or put a Combi-Melta on their Rhino.

If you ditch the other two Havocs, look at adding combi-weapons to the last two Rhinos and the Land Raider, as even a Combi-Melta on the LR is better than the Lascannons for popping another AV 14 tank, plus the DP can use it as the one weapon fired after moving 12"...can be potent (if you hit).

Hope these suggestions help! Good luck!

Such a standard chaos list, with exceptions of havocs, mentioned above. As for me, i want to ask you: are predators doing well in your hands? They can be switched to oblits/vindics. Other units are ok, but if you drop all the havocs, this points will alow you to take something like slaanesh with guitar for example

Alright, you have an excellent point on the havocs. I originally threw them on just because I had spare points, but I can see the potential for the combi meltas (especially considering my lack of pure anti tank) With those changes in mind... chaos V.2

HQ - 275
Abaddon the Despoiler

Troops - 1023
7x Plague Marines
- 2x plasma Guns
- Champion
- - Power Fist
- Dedicated Rhino w/ Combi - Melta

7x Plague Marines
- 2x plasma Guns
- Champion
- - Power Fist
- Dedicated Rhino w/ Combi - Melta

8x Khorne Berzerkers
- Champion
- - Power Fist
- Dedicated Rhino w/ Combi - Melta

8x Khorne Berzerkers
- Champion
- - Power Fist
- Dedicated Rhino w/ Comi - Melta

Elite - 440
4x Terminators
- Khorne
- 4x Dual lightning claws
- Dedicated Land Raider w/ Possession & Combi Melta

Heavy Support - 260
Predator
- Sponson Lascannons

Predator
- Sponson Lascannons

total = 1998

On a side note, I think you might have daemon possession confused with PotMS o_O It doesn't allow you to shoot an extra shot on top of movement.


And I took the preds for some extra mech on the field. I needed more of a presence so that my land raider wasn't the only thing feeling the love of any high strength weapons (Plus the long range support was certainly needed). I'm not a big fan of the way oblitz play. I have horrible luck with them, so I don't take them. They are awesome as hell, but in my hands... the few times I've played chaos, they got blown apart and didn't do anything in return =/

There are no glaring issues with this list that would keep you from being competitive at least from where I'm sitting. The only things I can suggest are changes to make it more efficient and more effective, but even without any changes you could do well on the tabletop.

Abaddon in 2000pts and up is really the only way to ever take him. He's just too expensive to take in lower point values usually. That said, you could drop him for a token chaos lord (still possible to make him black legion and still use the abaddon model for badassness) to save a lot of points for more models/upgrades elsewhere. Almost 300pts in one model is a huge amount when he doesn't have any sort of force multiplier (look at loyalist marine HQ ICs and almost everyone has an ability that changes his entire army in some fashion, making terminators scoring for instance). He is still a powerhouse in combat, but I just have to ask you to consider what you could have instead.

Troops are fine. I dont upgrade my rhinos in any way because I see them as lost causes, but combi-meltas arent bad for the small amount of points if you can't find any other way to spend them.

Terminators - They're expensive, especially when combined with the land raider. Are they really worth it? The land raider by itself can be a game changer, but it also makes an easy target if you pile loads of expensive, slow-moving units inside it. If you're plan is to put abaddon in here as well that is a ridiculous amount of points and any enemy general would be stupid not to shoot everything he has at it. Drawing that kind of fire power makes it easy to lose a huge amount of points in a hurry. Spread your points out. You don't want nearly 1000pts in 6 models.

Heavy support isn't bad either. I personally find lascannons to be lackluster in this edition but on a vehicle they're a bit better. I would consider instead taking some havocs with melta in rhinos or havocs with autocannon/missile launcher combos to deal out punishment from range. If you take the land raider it would be nice to have more vehicles like preds/rhinos to give enemy HS things to shoot at, but if you drop all the big expensive vehicles you can make all those nasty melta or melta equivalent weapons a lot less scary when they can only fire on 15pt marines one at a time.

Your right, I did confuse Demonic Possesion.