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Hello everyone,

Tomorrow my FLGS (who are awesome) are having a campaign beginning, and I am bringing a Chapter Master modeled on the basis of the old Iron Father / new Master of the Forge.

Much conversion and epic painting later, he's finished. Mounted on a nice, scenic base, foot-on-rock and omnissian axe in hand...

but the base...

is a Terminator base! DUN DUN DUNNNNNN

I have recently seen a spate of blog articles regarding the basing of models. I was wondering what the general community's opinion on it is. So far, the larger base on the Tech-Father has not been a problem locally, in part because a servo-harness on a plastic body does not sit well on a regular 25mm base without taking a dive every few seconds.

So, Denizens of Dakka, is this an acceptable conversion, and where do you draw the line? What conversions are acceptable, while others are too advantageous?

P.S. The only thing I could think of that I would gain from this is an extra 15mm of debarkation movement. I do not intend to do this and did not build the model for this purpose, but I recognize that it is possible and that could be an argument against having him on a 40mm base.

I have a number of models mounted on a larger base size than standard due to tipping problems.

There are various disadvantages of large bases which offset the advantages.

Unit1126PLL wrote:So far, the larger base on the Tech-Father has not been a problem locally

This is all you need to know.

A lot of people model centerpeice models like HQ units on larger bases precisely because putting one in a different pose or giving it esoteric conversions leads to unbalanced models, or simply to have a badass, standout base for the model. It's not always about modelling for advantage.

But still, you answered your own question. What a website community thinks means little. As long as your local players don't mind and know you didn't do it for advantage but rather to have a better centerpeice HQ, then that's all that matters.

Rulebook covers it clearly. Generally, a model needs to be placed on the base it comes with, but with an opponent's permission, you're free to use a scenic base.

Of course, not all opponents will be happy to let you use scenic bases (I met that problem with my truescale marines), but that's the price you pay.

The rulebook also says the most important rule is the rules are not important.

Unless you're playing in a tournament, this is exactly the kind of rule that should be let go unless it's plainly obvious that they're doing it for advantage.

I mean, if someone has their commander an inch higher on a bit of debris to make him stand out, but the base needed to be slightly bigger, why complain? They have the added disadvantage of TLOS working against them with a much taller model. And for what in gameplay terms, a few extra milimeters of range on their pistol, an extra dude in base ot base combat if they were completely surrounded?

I might be making some grey knight jokaero weaponsmiths that aren't grey knight jokaero weaponsmiths (long story).

I'm not sure how I'm going to do them yet, but it's looking like they'll be slightly too large for a 25mm base.

Would it be acceptable to have them on slightly larger bases? For example 2 in a shooty henchmen squad, or would that be pushing it?

Also, hi everybody!


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curses most foul, sorry for the threadomancy

got confused by your crazy american date system :p

I think that most people are okay with arger bases for HQ's, or centerpiece models.

When you start having a bunch of models on larger bases then it starts to get annoying to play. You also gain advantages when it comes to Blast and Template weapons as larger bases essentially let you spread you models out further, (You are less likely to hit a lot, but more likely to hit one or two then miss completely I guess)


Jokaero on a 40mm round would be okay if they really need it, I guess. Is it an Obliterator?


@rand: What treadomancy? you are fine as long as the topic was on the first page.