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I know the ordo malleus have the grey knights attached and the ordo Xenos have the deathwatch, but has there been any mention of a marine force attached to ordo hereticus?

No. The Ordo Hereticus deals with matters that are more closely tied to the religious creed of the Imperium, and as a result have another fighting force that tends to support them - the Sororitus.

Being an order of the Inquisition, if a Heretic threat is large enough, or of sufficient magnitude to require Astartes involvement, the Inquisition can request aid from any/all available Chapters.

Technically, they can demand it, but that rarely goes over well, so the wise Inquisitor asks nicely, and provides the Chapter Master with sufficient information to demonstrate why Astartes involvement is required.

Given that latitude, Ordo Hereticus doesn't really require a devoted Chapter to further its goals. In the Eisenhorn series, the White Consuls Chapter lends their aid quite frequently, having been part of the Crusade that launched from the Helican sub-sector/Ixaniad Sector.

The Ordo Hereticus isn't exactly the Astartes' friend...
They are VERY quick to excomunicate a chapter which tends to upset them.
Admittedly if the threat of heretics is big enough to get them to order SM assistance then it is likely the SM are either already there or going to be there, it's common sense really.

Each ordo has its own chamber militant, and the Ordo Heriticus have the Sisters of Battle, they don't need a constant space marine chamber militant.

Also Ordo Heriticus beliefs are usually opposite to that of space marines.

BluntmanDC wrote:Each ordo has its own chamber militant, and the Ordo Heriticus have the Sisters of Battle, they don't need a constant space marine chamber militant.

Also Ordo Heriticus beliefs are usually opposite to that of space marines.

Sorta... SoB arn't techinically part of the inquisition like Deathwatch and GKs are. They just kinda help out due to the overlap in duties. They're techinically part of the Ecclesiarchy. The Ordo Hereticus has no official millitant arm.

Yeah If I remember correctly the Adeptus Sororitas exist because of a kind of loop-hole. After the Age of Apostasy the Ecclesiarchy was banned from having "Men at arms"

Indeed, but the Sororitas oversees the Ecclesiarchy as much as they function as its military might. In the event of another Vandire, or anything remotely seeming like that situation, it is the task of the Sororitas to "nip it in the bud" before it sparks another Age of Apostasy.

Sothas wrote:

BluntmanDC wrote:Each ordo has its own chamber militant, and the Ordo Heriticus have the Sisters of Battle, they don't need a constant space marine chamber militant.

Also Ordo Heriticus beliefs are usually opposite to that of space marines.

Sorta... SoB arn't techinically part of the inquisition like Deathwatch and GKs are. They just kinda help out due to the overlap in duties. They're techinically part of the Ecclesiarchy. The Ordo Hereticus has no official millitant arm.

The Ordo Hereticus is the one order that really doesn't even need a standing army, it is far closer to the historical inquisition in that an inquisitor and their retinue can do most of the work.

BluntmanDC wrote:

Sothas wrote:

BluntmanDC wrote:Each ordo has its own chamber militant, and the Ordo Heriticus have the Sisters of Battle, they don't need a constant space marine chamber militant.

Also Ordo Heriticus beliefs are usually opposite to that of space marines.

Sorta... SoB arn't techinically part of the inquisition like Deathwatch and GKs are. They just kinda help out due to the overlap in duties. They're techinically part of the Ecclesiarchy. The Ordo Hereticus has no official millitant arm.

The Ordo Hereticus is the one order that really doesn't even need a standing army, it is far closer to the historical inquisition in that an inquisitor and their retinue can do most of the work.

Depends on how long the heresy in question has had to fester and what sort of connections it has. What appears to be an "ordinary" heretical cult on the surface may very well have ties to xenos or the warp.

Eumerin wrote:
Depends on how long the heresy in question has had to fester and what sort of connections it has. What appears to be an "ordinary" heretical cult on the surface may very well have ties to xenos or the warp.

well, its not like the hereticus inquisitor quits and goes home if it turns out that the heretical cult was actually xenos infested.

Besides, numerous inquisitors have ties to more than one Ordo or sect within the Inquisition anyway.

tarnish wrote:

Eumerin wrote:
Depends on how long the heresy in question has had to fester and what sort of connections it has. What appears to be an "ordinary" heretical cult on the surface may very well have ties to xenos or the warp.

well, its not like the hereticus inquisitor quits and goes home if it turns out that the heretical cult was actually xenos infested.

That was actually my point. Stating that the Inquisitor and his or her retinue can do the work ignores the fact that heretical cults (particularly ones that draw the attention of inquisitors) often turn out to be much more powerful than they appear to be on the surface. Links to xenos and the warp (among other things) are just one example of this. As a result, even Ordo Hereticus inquisitors sometimes need a powerful miliitary response to deal with their opponents, and the Sororitas are the logical group to call upon (when available and willing - they are, after all, not directly under the control of the Inquisition, unlike the Grey Knights and Deathwatch).

In which case they call in the Guard?

The Imperial Guard is readily available, spread throughout the sector, and is fully capable of dealing with most cults.

the Ordo Hereticus rarely needs more then the Imperial Guard as for the most part they are fighting humans.


an Inquisitor's retinue(which can be as large as a small army itself) is normally suffcient to destroy a cult or hunt down a particular heretic.

if a full on rebellion breaks out, either the IG is enough to put it down or the Heretics have managed to get aid from their dark masters(in which case, the whole thing becomes a Malleus affair)

^^ pretty much what they said. When an inquisitor needs an "powerful military response" he can dragoon the IG, PDF, Arbites, and whatever other locally available standing force he wants. And even for Xenos and Malleus, the problem with Deathwatch and Grey Knights is there's not a whole lot of them to go around. In most of the fluff I've read the inquisitor ends up having to purge the unclean with whatever local armed forces he managed to round up.

Melissia wrote:In which case they call in the Guard?

The Imperial Guard is readily available, spread throughout the sector, and is fully capable of dealing with most cults.

The Guard can also arguably deal with low level Warp problems and Xenos infiltration. It's only when things reach a critical threshold that an Inquisitor is more or less required to call in the Grey Knights or the Deathwatch. I view Ordo Hereticus use of the Sororitas in a similar fashion. Occasionally there will be heretical cults that appear to be particularly seductive or otherwise threatening. In such cases, the inquisitor puts in a request for assistance (keeping in mind that unlike the Grey Knights and Deathwatch, the Sisters do not directly answer to the Inquisition) to the military group that's particularly devoted to the Imperial Creed and resistant to heresy - the Sororitas.