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Da Doc seems like a great choice. He lets me give everyone Cybork bodies, he gives his unit FNP and Fearless, he has a poison weapon and a power Klaw....and he's not that expensive. Looks like you just stick him in a unit of Boyz, Nobz or even Meganobz and you got yourself a rock 'Ard bunch of Orks..

But......

is he good enough to take a whole HQ slot?? I mean, he's not as good in CC as a regular Warboss, so is that PK wasted on him?? I could take 2 Warbosses that would be better in CC, and then take some units of Nobz with Painboyz-and I'd STIll get access to Cybork bodies and FNP...

Do people think his extra flexibility is worth the points/HQ slot?

Its only useful it Meganob/fun armies. Giving Meganobz Cybork is massive boost to them.

don't forget his one scapel shor tof a medpack rule... all that coolness comes at a price

i usually try to throw him in wiht snickrot and ambush him and komandoes into stuff 15 komandoes with cybork bodies and fnp plus snickrot and the doc make for a pretty brutal distraction plus as InquisitorVaron pointed out you cna give cybork bodies to meganobs making them even tougher

does ambush work with an ic?

tgf wrote:does ambush work with an ic?

Yup... Ambush is not a USR ability (which is what you're probably thinking).

Ambush simply gives Snikrot's unit to come to any table edge. Ergo... an IC is joined with the Kommando/Snikrot unit is infact "Snikrot's unit".

I've tried the Grotsnik+Snikrot combo, gave a small unit of Kommandoz Cybork and Ambushed with them.

T2 Rolled a 3
T3 Rolled a 2
T4 Rolled a 1
T5 there was nothing for them to do, ended up getting squished.

Sufficed to say he was a huge points sink, now I Know odds of that happening again are slim, but it certainly can happen.

Grotsnik is a neat HQ, if you put him in a wagon he's pretty much good to go, also don't neglect the fact that he can give ANY unit cybork bodies, so there's really a lot that you can do with him (cybork Grots anyone?)

Don't get me wrong;I read the Codex and thought he looked great. However, if there's one lesson I've learned, it's that there's a lot of great looking choices that turn out to be not so great . Grotsnik compete with, say, regular warbosses and KFF Bigmeks for a HQ lot-so it's a bit descision. My guess is he's a "support" choice; one would take him to bolster a unit, while another, more mainstream choice (like the aforementioned KFF Bigmek) is taken as the "main" HQ choice.

yea, snickrot it always a gamble, but that's the fun of orks imo.. sometimes cool stuff happens, sometimes you get screwed but either way keep goo humor about it and enjoy the game.

it is like fielding a SAG you're just as likely to roll double one's as double 6's but you take the good with the bad. I have snickrot'd in mad doc with extreme sucess and i'f had him some in turn 4 or 5 where it didn't matter as i had either been mostly wiped out or mostly wiped out my opponent already