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What would i be getting in to? I borrowed my friends Army Book, i love the Norse/Viking theme, The fact that not all of them are completely depraved and evil (read blood for the blood god). I thought that one female character, Valkia or something, was also awesome.

Really, what would i be in for? It seems pretty flexible.

Im not a khorne all the way guy more of a tzeentch supporter.

Im new to this too and just got 3k together and here is what I thought

1 Tzeentch warriors with shield and sword are tough and mean.

Khorne i like mine with halberds and shields.
They have a good save against shooting and are meat grinders in cc they made bret knights cry as they cut them limb from limb.

Lords are freaking EPIC!!!!!! totally crazy and killy.

Sorcerers are so mean nurgle and tzeentch just nasty nasty stuff.

Hellcannons are loads of fun and effective.

knights cool models they tend to get killed first everyone hates those guys but when they live they make their points back.

marauder horde of 50 with flails mok 10 wide hehehehe good times.

Thats my experience so far but then again i just started a month or 2 ago.

Good luck

Yeah, i was reading through the army book, and i know this is probably a question forged from derp, but the Chaos Armor on warriors, is that applicable to Chosen, Knights, Chariots, Forsaken and Lords?

Also, is it me, or do characters cost loads more in fantasy?

Also for Knights, MoN, and people say they're one of the toughest units in the entire game, this be truth?

PLEASE DONT PLAY CHAOS, THEY MAKE MY ELITE TROOPS LOOK LIKE ZOMBIES, AND ZOMBIES LOOK LIKE THE DIRT THEY CRAWLED OUT OF!!!1!
Past the over-reaction, this is what I think you will be getting into. Combat. JUst God mOde your way through every encounter you come across. Fun race I must admit.

WoC are simply full of win. They are great visually and their basic troops can best the elites of any other army - they are also the cheapest army to collect as their pts are so damn high.

What more could you ask for?

Characters are worth a lot more pts in Fantasy (expecially the Chaos ones) because they are double-hard & can do a hell of a lot more than 40k ones - you can't buy Wargear cards like you used to, to make your 40k guys even harder

Knights are awesome but expensive in pts - you're looking at 200pts for 5 'basic' Knights! I'd say the MoN is really annoying for people as the -1 to hit in shooting, their toughness & 1+ armour save makes bows a non-event. In combat they have magical weapons at Str 5 - what more could you want? They are tough but I think Chosen have the edge as they are cheaper.

I'm tempted to convert Valkia the Bloody as she is awesome, yet I'm not sure how I'd use her, perhaps smuggle her in a unit of warriors, do as much damage as possible and then fly to kill off those war machines? I've just started them myself & can't wait to have my first 750pts game.

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Gladly, the last time i opened the Fantasy rule book was in 7th edition, so i need to get a new rule book and a definite refresher. As for tzeetch Warriors, how much fire can they weather? Dwarven gun lines?

Any army that walks against a black powder gun line has to pray to their (heathen) gods that they will emerge alive. No matter what you field or how you field it, those vital 3 or more turns will decide the game, if the Dwarf inflicts enough casualties, he wins as his melee support smashes the rest of your army. If your troops survived the encounter with the powder (hur hur) then it will be an easy victory for you. I play a gunline against my local WoC player all the time, the result is some of the funnest (and funniest) games either of us have played, he either smashes me or I smash him. And then there is the duel between our Generals, but thats another, awesome story.

Would using that Wulferik character be helpful against a gun line? Since he can appear off any board edge?

Wolfrek, No no no no no, he is no help against a gunline , he is just a horrible character and you shouldnt field him and his band of pirates and flying dutchman ripoff .
Yes he is useful against Gunlines, but you will make no friends with gunline players... But everyone else will pat you on the back... *sigh*

Haha tzeentch lords and heroes on discs will make gun lines sad like boom hello now you are dead.

Cheapest army would have to be ogres wouldnt it?
but yes warriors sort of cheap lol

Chariots are not that amazing i have found.

Everything that says chaos armor has it (chosen lords etc warriors good times)

Sanctus-Malas wrote:Wolfrek, No no no no no, he is no help against a gunline , he is just a horrible character and you shouldnt field him and his band of pirates and flying dutchman ripoff .
Yes he is useful against Gunlines, but you will make no friends with gunline players... But everyone else will pat you on the back... *sigh*

I dunno, taking a large block of Warriors, and sending them in behind the dwarven gun line might be worth the eternal grudge..... The looks on their stunty faces.

I dont think he can take warriors I think its marauders only.

Even then. A block of 50 Marauders, with flails, coming in behind a gun line. That actually sounds better then warriors !

It sounds fun, but if you do it, I WILL CRY...
Hopefully you roll this
Turn 1 -
Turn 2 -
Turn 3 -
Turn 4 -
Turn 5 - Instant appearance...dammit.
If you do use it, tell me how it goes, I want to know how to prepare for it.

Ouch, that seems to be one of the only things that really can be a stinker in fantasy, their seems to be much less of a SUPRISE! factor.

But all in all, the charging unit will have something like 150 strength 5 attacks on the charge, right?

150 attacks how?
Marauders mok 10 wide would mean 2 attacks a piecefront rank so thats 21 because of the champ guy.
10 from supporting rank 2
10 supporting attacks rank 3
Still nasty

cowpow16 wrote:150 attacks how?
Marauders mok 10 wide would mean 2 attacks a piecefront rank so thats 21 because of the champ guy.
10 from supporting rank 2
10 supporting attacks rank 3
Still nasty

Derp. My bad. Still thinking 40k!

And its not even like outflanking in 40k, its literally i can put them on any table edge without it being random. But would it be worth the removing of the forces from the main force that will definitely suffer some painful shooting?