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My list at the moment is thus:

Grey Knight Grand Master w/ MC sword, 3 x servo skulls, rad grenades

6 x Paladins w/ Brotherhood Banner, 2 x swords, 2 x halberds, 1 x MC hammer

4 x Terminators (5) w/ 2 x swords, 2 x halberds, 1 x MC hammer, psycannon

2 x Dreadnoughts w/ psybolt and 1 x TLAC

The Grand Master is ace when coupled with the Paladins as the -1T coupled with S5 in the assault (hammerhand) means him and his unit are hitting on 3s, and killing on 2s against pretty much any other infantry unit in the game. He also grants access to servo skulls, which will be incredibly useful, when combined with Psychic Communion, to allow all the rest of the Terminators to deep strike in on the same turn with relatively decent accuracy. He also has a 2+/3++ in CC (which is as good as Draigo's).

My question is, would it be efficient to swap out the Grand Master, and a unit of Terminators, to make room for Draigo and another Dreadnought? Draigo is one hell of a durable beat-stick, makes the Paladins Troops, and has the ever awesome SS + EW. The downside is that he provides no additional utility to either the army or the unit of Paladins other than being a beat-stick. No servo skulls make the Terminators less accurate on arrival, and the loss of rad grenades is huge, as at that point the Paladins only kill on 3s rather than 2s. The added Dreadnought is good, I suppose, but I'm relying more on the psycannons than long-ranged S8.

At the moment I'm disinclined to think that Draigo would be able to outperform an entire unit of Terminators on his own, but I want to hear what you guys have to say before I go ahead and make the purchases.

L. Wrex

P.S. As an afterthought, I am also considering dropping the Dreadnoughts entirely to make room for a Librarian. Any thoughts on whether this would be a wise decision?

You can save off those nasty high str/low ap shots that will instakill your paladins on draigo's stellar 3++ stormshield. I think he plugs a pretty big hole in paladin viability, and that is much more durability to those nasty instant-death shots.

My answer is to take both. Drop a unit of termies and upgrade a paladin to Draigo. It gives you all the advantages of Draigo and the GM, plus gives you double coverage on Grand Strategy and Psychic Communion.

Lycaeus Wrex wrote: as at that point the Paladins only kill on 3s rather than 2s.

Draigo and Paladins both have Hammerhand. The Paladins would be str 6.

I didn't think Hammerhand stacked. Does it stack? RaI I'd have said no, as that's the whole purpose of Might of Titan right?

L. Wrex

AFAIK, it doesn't stack. It does let you go for Hammerhand and Force Weapons however...
I'd probably echo the idea of getting both. I'm not sure how well the dreads fit in this list however.

The Brotherhood Banner let's the force weapons pop automatically so no real worries about that. I'm also considering dropping the Dreads entirely for either a Librarian or another squad of Terminators, depending upon how the GM/Draigo issue resolves itself.

L. Wrex

Psyrifle dreads are ridiculously amazing fire support. To me they seem to pretty reliably pop transports every turn, not to mention shake off fire with their psychic fortitude.

Just to throw an additional spanner in the works: What about taking Draigo and a Librarian w/ 3 x servo skulls, MC sword, Might of Titan, Quicksilver, Shrouding and Sanctuary? Librarian comes to 190, cheaper than the GM, and his Might of Titan gives the unit a definite S6 as well as adding a whole ton of utility to the army.

Hmmm...that sounds tasty....

L. Wrex

Now just put them in a LR and drive up laughing while you have a 3+ cover save from smoke + shrouding

If you're planning to deep strike your terminators, and I assume you are since I see no modes of transportation, then the Grandmaster currently works better with your army as a whole. Being able to deep strike with reasonable accuracy for the entirety of your force is far better than a tough storm shield.

Lycaeus Wrex wrote:The Brotherhood Banner let's the force weapons pop automatically so no real worries about that. I'm also considering dropping the Dreads entirely for either a Librarian or another squad of Terminators, depending upon how the GM/Draigo issue resolves itself.

L. Wrex

They will pass the test automatically with the banner, but they still use up their 1 pys ability a turn if they do that, so they would be stuck at strength 4. Having the gm/draigo with them would allow them to have hammerhand and use their force weapons.

I definitely think tossing a librarian in the group is a good idea as well. Now you can toss MoT and quicksilver on the group, and have shrouding or sanctuary for defense.

Strength 6 pallies at initiative 10 with auto passing force weapons = fun

@ omerakk.

The GM/Draigo pop Hammerhand, as they are part of a unit the Paladins get the +1 to their S. The Paladins then use the BB to pop force weapons and, as the GM/Draigo is the member of *their* unit their force weapons get activated as well.

I'm definitely liking the Librarian/Draigo tag-team. S6 I10 force weapons *and* servo skulls tied with Psychic Communion for the rest of the army. Sounds like a nasty hammer to be sure!

L. Wrex