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Hi all,

Wondering what peoples' views are on this. I'm interested in playing in a sporting and balanced way - I generally avoid spam and death star units.

Played a game of 40k at the weekend; (my) orks vs tyranids. I won by using a 10-strong nobz mob to hold one of the two objectives, and contesting the other with a battlewagon.

I equipped the nobz to take advantage of the wound allocation rules, and it paid off. My question is this: Is this tactic "sporting"? Is it how the mob was designed to be fielded?

I can't work it out. It makes sense to field nobz differently, with a few skorchas and PKs backed up by big choppas and sluggas. Nevertheless, it feels a bit cheesy to force your opponent to inflict at least 13 wounds before taking Ld tests.

In addition, general advice for 'nid players is to avoid nob mobs. So, is there anything my opponent could reasonably have done? My SM opponent just drops vindicator pie-plates on them, negating their armour, FNPs and causing instakills.

So, wound shenannigans. Sporting and RAI, or cheesy and overly RAW?

Some armies can do it well, some can't. Thats just the way it is.

I have no problem with an opponent paying for extra wargear they ( in my experiance ) usually forget they have.

Besides, as you said anti-tank weapons generally turns it a waste.

Considering Nobz and units like them were written with 5th ed in mind, it's perfectly within the boundaries of the rules. I'm really hoping it gets revised for 6th ed, but there's nothing wrong with what you did.

As for ways for Nids to take care of them? Genestealers can hit them first, rend away their armor and FNP, and potentially kill a few. Lashwhip and Bonesword Warriors can do a lot of damage as well. Alternately, strand them by destroying their transport and just kite them and play keepaway. Hive Guard can cause instant death on them, and ignore both 'eavy armor and FNP.

I don't think its unsporting. Isn't the wound allocation example in the BRB actually done with nobs?

Wound allocation isn't like spamming a unit or running a powerbuild list in casual play. Its just a regular game mechanic. I wouldn't begrudge an opponent who used it against me, its no worse than taking wounds on members of the squad not under the template, or removing casualties who aren't carrying special weapons.