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I would like to propose the following:

Rather than chiming in immediately when we see something that is moderately to glaringly incorrect, or when we simply see something we disagree with, could we all at least wait until we have the relevant rules and codexes in our hands, and have taken the time to at least read through them before posting/commenting/quoting/replying? I see many comments/replies/etc that start with "When I get home and have a chance to look at my rule book/codex...", and I think this is counter-intuitive and counter-productive.

Additionally, I think it's very inflammatory when someone uses terms as cheating, beardy, widgy, etc, even in broad strokes, because many people will take these statements as if they were personally directed at them, whether they were or not. Could we also consider leaving such terms out of our forum vocabulary?

Thank you all for your consideration.

Kurn

I reject your proposal, on the grounds that I may know if something is incorrect, but not know the exact page of the solution and may not have a rulebook handy.

Calling things 'beardy' and such is already disallowed by the tenets of YMDC.

And, since this post doesn't have any questions about rules, it breaks the tenets of YMDC.

Darkjediben wrote:I reject your proposal, on the grounds that I may know if something is incorrect, but not know the exact page of the solution and may not have a rulebook handy.

Fair enough, but I feel you're helping to strengthen my position by admitting there are moments you participate in these rules discussions that you may not have a rules source available. If we all just waited those few minutes/hours it took, and quoted our sources verbatim with page numbers would it not be easier for the internet community to "be on the same page", so to speak?



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Xarian wrote:

And, since this post doesn't have any questions about rules, it breaks the tenets of YMDC.

My query regarding forum terminology was sparked by a number of posts comprised of angrily worded accusations directed in broad spectrum.

I believe my OP has merit. It speaks directly to the fundamental ability we all have to provide a greater scope of understanding with regards to the rules, namely asking for everyone (myself included) to utilize our rules resources in conjunction with our comments and replies.

I agree.

The amount of answers along the lines of; "I seem to remember that...", "In my group we do....." or "That is wrong (not followed by "because")" is simply staggering.

Such answers are in no way helpful or contributing, and should be left un-written.

If you (generic "you") cannot be bothered to look up the answer and reference it, then just don't answer.

Many people post here during a game, and they'd rather have a quick response than a solidly quoted one. Till their next game any error would have been cleared out anyways.

On the other hand, people who post such things in threads and have it corrected get to learn that they are making a mistake.

Darkjediben wrote:I reject your proposal, on the grounds that I may know if something is incorrect, but not know the exact page of the solution and may not have a rulebook handy.

That's great until what you "know" turns out to not be what the rules actually say.

You should just learn to bring all codexes, expansion rules and main rulebook to every game. They easily fit inside your figure cases or in a bag. Also learn to use the index (noone knows the page number for ever rule off by heart). I believe even at beginners sundays at GW stores you require a rulebook and codex just to move to the next stage of beginnerness. Veteran players should know that people make mistakes and thats why you must always bring all relevent rules to every game.



edit: just correcting a typo

The Acolyte wrote:Veteran players shoudl know that people make mistakes and thats why you must always bring all relevent rules to every game.

Also, knowing how the rule works isn't enough. When you encounter an odd special rule or circumstance then you need the exact wording.

RAWR the intrawebs police does not like untruths, you must double source all your information now.

tgf wrote:RAWR the intrawebs police does not like untruths, you must double source all your information now.

Given that this forum is for answering rules questions, people posting wrong answers because they didn't check isn't exactly helpful.

It's OK to suggest ideas about rules without quotes, but the best evidence is always going to be the actual text.