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somecallmeJack wrote:Stupid question, but how 'big' is 60 metres? Someone give me a real world object that's 60 metres high.

A building that's around 19-21 storeys tall. A yacht isn't a very good example, because horizontal distances are a great deal less impressive: walking a hundred meters is a trivial effort, while climbing a hundred meters or walking up 33 flights of stairs would be a great deal more strenuous.

Brother Coa wrote:Warhound - 15 meters (45 feet)
Reaver Class Titan is around 40-50 meters (120-150 feet)
Warlord Titan - 60 meters (180 feet)
The Imperator - 55.5 meters (166ft)
The Warmonger is very similar in structure and appearance to the Imperator Titan.

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Somebody needs to do some serious measurement correcting.

An Abrams has a height of 2.44 meters, so a warhound is like six Abrams stacked on top of one another (it's also just over two wide, and around one and a half long long, since an Abrams is 2.44m*4.66m*7.93m, and a warhound is 15m*11m*12m).

Also, reavers are 22 meters, and warlords are 33 meters.

Titans actually have sizes that makes sense, once you get past the impracticality of giant walking tanks. Technically, a baneblade should outgun and outrun a warhound, going off size comparisons, but Titans are magic god-machines that are possibly the most singularly advanced piece of imperial technology, as well as possessing the highest "advancement versus usefulness" ratio, nudging at least a little ahead of "anything Space Marines use on a regular basis"; that is to say, a warhound is probably dozens of times as advanced as a baneblade, but is only worth two or three in terms of usefulness (just like how a bolter is dozens of times as advanced as a lasgun, but is only worth two or three).

Brother Coa wrote:Manta:
Length - 32m
Width - 52m
Height - 8m

Take Lockheed SR-71 Blackbird for example:

Length - 32.74m
Height - 5.64m ( a little smaller than Manta )
Width - 16.94m ( take approximately 3 SR-71 one by another and you get how Width is Manta ).



Not how I would imagine Titan killer, somebody at GW REALLY need to fix these numbers.

Ledabot wrote:I bet you could get the blackbird to pull of a titan kill. their just to aousome to fail. on mantas. how do the fit 4 tanks and like 60 dudes inside again?

A Manta is more like a Spectre Gunship, in size and function. The Blackbird was a long-range, high-speed, high-altitude reconnaissance aircraft, without any armaments; the only way it could take down a Titan is if it crashed into its cockpit at mach 3, and wasn't stopped by the void shields. Remember, though, that it took several Manta's to bring down a single warhound, and that they're such massive, wallowing things that they need supporting air craft to protect them. They're presumably so lumbering because they devote almost the entirety of their space to the storage of ground troops, leaving little room for things like engines, and greatly increasing the weight and drag.

loota boy wrote:I am broken-hearted. How can an imperator not be AT LEAST the size of a (American)football field? And The estimated size for the manta is just pathetic.... I always imagined them to be Horizon-spanning giants that if going at lowest speed would take like 20 minutes to pass over. I thought that the imperator was able to crush city blocks under its feet... And the height for the reaver looks like how big a dreadnought should be... or at least a dreadknight....

Excuse me while I cry in this corner and try to gather up the pieces of my heros...

A lot of people don't seem to realize just how large that is. When we think of distances, we generally think of wide open, horizontal spaces, which make things seem a lot smaller, since 55 meters of open ground is nothing, since at a light walk one covers between one and two meters a second, depending on one's stride. 55 meters of vertical structure is radically different, and just 15 meters of vertical climbing on stairs would wear out the average person.

The Imperator titan is like 23 Abrams stacked on top of one another, in five columns three deep. That's absurdly huge for a land-based vehicle. It's bigger than you can reasonably build an aircraft too, though small next to what you can put on water.

It would admittedly have been cool if an Imperator was two pieces, each just a 1.5' by 1.5' by 2' foot, placed roughly a foot apart on the table, with the titan itself implied to be eight feet tall (what you'd get converting 150 meters to 28mm scale). Probably hard to work with, though.

Yes, let's ignore the numbers that actually make sense in favor of ridiculous exaggerations for dramatic effect! Titans are miles tall and Space Marines are useful and relevant!