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I am trying to make a take all comers Swarmlord list for 1850 points. I want something that works well synergisticly (i know thats not a word) so if you have any comments or ideas feel free to post them.

HQ
Swarmlord /w Tyrant gaurd = 340
Tervigon /w Catalyst = 175

Elite
x2 Hive Guards = 100
x2 Hive Guards = 100
x2 Zoanthropes /w Mycetic Spore = 160

Troops
x27 Hormagaunts = 162
x8 Genestealers +broodlord=190 (sything talons)
x8 Genestealers +broodlord= 199 (toxin sacs)

Heavy
Trygon /w Adrenal glands = 210
Trygon /w Adrenal glands = 210

=1846 pts.

So the way I envision it is, Genestealers outflanking, Hormagaunts up front with a Trygon on either side, Hive guards behind them, Swarmlord behind Hormagaunts getting cover, Tervigon behind everyone hopefully getting cover. And Zoeys putting an end to the heaviest tank on the field.

and yes i know that toxin sacs are better than talons on stealers, but thats only in most cases, and since i'll be outflanking, i will more than likely get to pick my targets. and i've had stealers rip open vehicles on more than one occasion, Talons help at hitting them, as well as solo characters such as deamon prince and avatars.

I also want to add a lashwhip to the Tyrant Guard, but the trade off for a hormagaunt leaves me at 1850, any ideas?

Personally I'd drop the hormagants so I could take 10 termagants and the tervigon then be another troop choice. Points saved can be used to increase stealer broods to 10 - do you really need 2 broodlords?

Nah i don't need 2 brood lords, but don't you think that the opportunity to lower units Ld for swarmlords "the horror" for some cheesy fall back! shenanigans? but i'll look into the tervigon. you really don't think the Hormagaunts are worth it?

Guessing you dropped a broodlord for a tervigon? I would say that is a very good idea as 2 broodlords are not needed. Tervigons are very hard to kill quickly. Takes alot of wounds to take them down and unless you end up in combat against powerweapons you save most with a 2+ save anyway. Can be a very good damage sponge unit and the ability to spawn broods in invaluble. You can easily pin the enemy down if you spawn enough nids. Can make for interesting games and would deffinately think you list would be good to play with.

Sorry, Im not a really big fan.

-Hormagaunts should have poison...if theyre supposed to be fodder for cover, use termagaunts.
-Stealer squads are too small to be effective
-Broodlords do not help with the horror - their -ld is used in the assault phase ending on your opponents turn, whereas the horror is a shooting attack in your own turn.
-Zoans are kind of meh here. 160 points to suicide them in for a moderate chance to take a single tank down...with an uncertain turn entry and uncertain location with the pod.
-The stuff you have on the table will be shot into the ground really quickly with nothing really fast moving up the table and no cover for your big monsters (aside from swarmlord, possibly tervigon depending on modelling).
- You only have 27 models (aside from the fodder horms and tervi spawns) in 1850 as well, with 18 of them being in reserve as suicide units (stealers and zoans). Dont see the point of the swarmlord here when there is no swarm.

Overall, I think you have too much dependency on trygons and the swarmlord in CC. Too much fat that can be swapped out for more bodies.

No Swarmlord too, gotcha. What would you suggest i run my tyrant as? I have it magnatized, and winges.