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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/25 15:06:13
Subject: Dark Angels compand master Ld question.
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Beast of Nurgle
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This weekend I was playing against my friend's Dark Angels list. He had a company master (or whatever it is called) and his special rule lets all squads on the battlefield use his leadership. However, I was playing guard and my psykers successfully used weaken resolve on one of his squads, that I then reduced by more than 25%. So the question arose, Does the squad still take the - Ld modifier. Because the attack reduced their Ld, but they use the company master's Leadership, which was technically unaffected.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/25 15:11:34
Subject: Dark Angels compand master Ld question.
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
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The effect (Rites of Battle maybe?) replaces the base ld value of a unit, it does not enable the unit to ignore negative modifiers. Example...
I lose combat by 2, due to the replacement effect I test on ld 10, but am at -2 in combat so I test on 8.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/25 15:21:44
Subject: Re:Dark Angels compand master Ld question.
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Beast of Nurgle
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ah, that is what I thought, however the rule did not clearly state that the units Ld was replaced. thank you for the help.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/25 15:47:19
Subject: Dark Angels compand master Ld question.
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
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If it said 'the unit can test on this ones unmodified leadership' then he would be right. For example, Sisters of Battle have a piece of wargear that allows this.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/03 16:25:03
Subject: Re:Dark Angels compand master Ld question.
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Stalwart Dark Angels Space Marine
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The thing is my company master was un-effected by the psykers so still had a Ld10 where my squad that was attacked had the negative modifier. So taking the Ld test I used the company masters according the Rites of battle Special rule. ( If a company master is on the field all DA units may take Ld, Pinning, and morale test off of the Company master's Ld)
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"And they shall know no fear"
Dark Angels- 6465pt.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/03 18:18:15
Subject: Re:Dark Angels compand master Ld question.
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Freaky Flayed One
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Yes, you take it on his Ld, but you still use modifiers. His Ld was 10, so take it on 10, but the squad taking it was affected by a modifier, so 10 + modifier is the number you test on, instead of the normal 8 or 9 + modifier that it would have been without that rule.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/03 20:17:24
Subject: Dark Angels compand master Ld question.
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Foolproof Falcon Pilot
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Weaken Resolve does NOT modify LD tests, which is a common misconception. It modifies the LD stat of the unit.
Therefore, You can weaken resolve a unit to LD 2; however, if that unit uses another's LD as per Rites of Battle, they now test on the other unit's LD 10, rather than their own LD 2.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/05 03:58:13
Subject: Dark Angels compand master Ld question.
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Prescient Cryptek of Eternity
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Agreed. Weaken Resolve on a unit that is using the Company Master's Ld effectively does nothing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/05 06:23:42
Subject: Dark Angels compand master Ld question.
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Death-Dealing Dark Angels Devastator
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On a different note, if they weaken reselve on the Company Master then they probably have no need to use his
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