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Hi guys need some help here.
I am unable to play warhammer in a hobby center i only am able to play with two friends and because of this we tend to not know the rules as well as we should.
I played a game on vassal against a guy, and in the assault phase my independent charter couldn't attack because he was not b2b, but he said that he could still attack my IC because he was part of the unit even though he was not b2b with any models? is this right? thank you for your time and help.

If the IC is not in b2b with any of the models in his unit then he cannot attack the IC. The IC is treated like a separate units for the purposes of determining 'who can fight'

Thank you! thats what i said but he kept saying no no look at the picture in the book blah blah and i was saying the ork nob is in b2b thats why they can thank you!

Also, when assaulting or pile in moves are made, you have to attempt to get the IC into BtB if at all possible and his moves are made before others. People can not choose to move them last so they don't get hurt or targeted.

Nkelsch - actually you're not correct.

When ASSAULTING you are under no compunction to move ICs first, only with Defenders react and pile in.

nosferatu1001 wrote:Nkelsch - actually you're not correct.

When ASSAULTING you are under no compunction to move ICs first, only with Defenders react and pile in.

Agreed.

An IC can neither attack nor can he BE attacked if not in B2B.

There are no rules for ICs moving first other than "Defenders React".

kefer wrote:Thank you! thats what i said but he kept saying no no look at the picture in the book blah blah and i was saying the ork nob is in b2b thats why they can thank you!

Ork Nobs aren't independent characters, anyway.

See page 49 for details of how to resolve independent characters in assault. In short, they are treated as a separate unit when all attacks are made, but he re-joins the squad as soon as squads have to start taking morale tests.

SlaveToDorkness wrote:There are no rules for ICs moving first other than "Defenders React".

You also have to move an IC first when making a pile-in move.

nosferatu1001 wrote:Nkelsch - actually you're not correct.

When ASSAULTING you are under no compunction to move ICs first, only with Defenders react and pile in.

Which is how you keep Eldrad - the most cowardly Eldar Farseer alive (but also the coolest ) out of harms way.

My regular opponent uses his fortuned eldrad to catch rokkits for his scorpions. One day he will fail that damed rerollable 3++...

overkongen wrote:

SlaveToDorkness wrote:There are no rules for ICs moving first other than "Defenders React".

You also have to move an IC first when making a pile-in move.

Oh yes. Wasn't sure, my book is packed away for game night tonight.


Touche....

liam0404 wrote:

nosferatu1001 wrote:Nkelsch - actually you're not correct.

When ASSAULTING you are under no compunction to move ICs first, only with Defenders react and pile in.

Which is how you keep Eldrad - the most cowardly Eldar Farseer alive (but also the coolest ) out of harms way.

Technically he's not even alive anymore.