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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/02/24 07:49:35
Subject: Chaos Biker conversions
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Maddening Mutant Boss of Chaos
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While I like GW?s chaos biker figures well enough, I wanted to push the concept a bit. According to the codex, ?The bike is almost an extension of its rider. ? The roar of the beast?s engine is the growl of a snarling beast that fires the damned soul of its rider to acts of greater recklessness.? Wonderful stuff, not really captured in the figure. And I?ve always loved the WHFB chaos knight figures. So, I tried bashing the two concepts together, and come up with this: http://www.dorkamorka.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/normal_chaos%20bikers%20unpainted7.jpg That?s the basic concept. The idea is that a daemon possesses the bike, symbiotically fusing with the chaos space marine when he rides. Which I picture as sinew, cables, gristle and gore knitting the two together, while demon claws clutch at the wheels and drive the creature forward. Here?s another version: http://www.dorkamorka.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/normal_chaos%20bikers%20unpainted4.jpg The plan is to use modeling chain for reins. In most cases, I?m leaving off the chains until I?ve painted the rest of the models, to make painting easier. But here?s a test of the concept: http://www.dorkamorka.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/normal_chaos%20bikers%20unpainted9.jpg And finally, here?s the aspiring champion: http://www.dorkamorka.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/normal_chaos%20bikers%20unpainted3.jpg Let me know what you think.<?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/02/24 07:54:52
Subject: RE:Chaos Biker conversions
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Maddening Mutant Boss of Chaos
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Hang on, let me try posting the images themselves: [edit: nope. Sorry, I'm not figuring this out.]
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/02/24 07:58:54
Subject: RE: Chaos Biker conversions
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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I think you've hit gold here. They look 100% chaotic psycho-killers, wich is what you want to. I cant wait to see some painted pic's.
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With the galaxy as large as it is the odds of the average guardsmen seeing and fighting a marine or MEQ are relatively slim. Unfortunately the guardsmen in your (and anyone else who plays IG's) army are the REALLY, REALLY LUCKY ones that fight marines ALL the time... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/02/24 08:10:10
Subject: RE:Chaos Biker conversions
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/02/24 08:10:33
Subject: RE: Chaos Biker conversions
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I like them other than the join where the neck meets the bike. I think you need to bulk that out some more to make it look better proportionately. Other than that great work. I captors the feel of the bikers tremendously.
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History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. - Dwight D. Eisenhower
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/02/24 09:02:48
Subject: RE: Chaos Biker conversions
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Where did you find the oval bases?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/02/24 09:12:31
Subject: RE: Chaos Biker conversions
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Maddening Mutant Boss of Chaos
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Thanks for the feedback, and bbb, for the help posting the pictures. The oval bases (which are magnetized) are sold by Gale Force 9. (I hate the look of rectangular cavalry bases among my round ones.)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/02/24 13:46:06
Subject: RE: Chaos Biker conversions
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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You, sir, have a twisted mind. And I mean that in a good, chaosy, sort of way. These things are far better than the GW version and much more in line with what seems to be going on in the Warp.
I do agree with Rygoth's point, though, and feel that the neck joint might be improved in some ways.
*This is going straight into the 'inspiring stuff' folder...*
JF
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/02/25 02:04:54
Subject: RE: Chaos Biker conversions
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Been Around the Block
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Please paint them in Alpha Legion colours
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/02/25 09:34:32
Subject: RE: Chaos Biker conversions
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Making Stuff
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Nice work... They're going to look rather nasty when they're painted.
I would agree with the suggestion to bulk out the necks, though... would help them look a little more chunky and intimidating.
It would possibly also be worth converting the bolters into combi-bolters. If you just slice off the barrel and the other sticky-outie bits on the front, you can reattach two barrels to make an easy over-under combi-bolter.
The Aspiring Champion could also do with a little more tendril-ness. Out of the squad, he should be the most fused with his ride... I'd suggest maybe removing his entire lower body, and starting your tendrils from there.
Very original though... looking forward to the finished product.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/02/25 12:16:38
Subject: RE: Chaos Biker conversions
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Been Around the Block
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They're great.
GW should have taken this appraoch to Chaos stuff, really doing something to make them different from vanilla marines.
The front wheel needs an axel to hold it in place though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/02/25 15:15:56
Subject: RE: Chaos Biker conversions
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Madrak Ironhide
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My favorite thing is probably the chains/reins on the one bike. Very nice. I want you to do one like this:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/02/26 05:01:48
Subject: RE: Chaos Biker conversions
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Maddening Mutant Boss of Chaos
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Great feedback -- thanks, guys. I love insaniak's idea about modeling combi-bolters. And about making the champion particularly tendrilly -- although since I've already started painted the first one, I think I'll have to wait and have a go at a second model for that. Regarding axles for the front wheels, my initial idea was that the clutching demon claws actually kept the wheels spinning and attached to the bike. But when modelled, it does look kind of odd, I agree. I think I'll attach Ben Hur spike-axles.
I'm still mulling over suggestions about working on the neck and/or neck joins. To my eye, the flamer heads fit pretty well with the rest of the model -- almost the size of a steed, but more sinuous and snakey, as demons should be. And then I wanted the join to suggest a kind of eruption from the bike, tinged with corruscating demon fire. Let me paint up one or two of them and see how it turns out.
Meanwhile, thanks again for the kind words,. I'll post painted versions when I finish one and get pictures.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/02/26 15:15:48
Subject: RE: Chaos Biker conversions
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Fresh-Faced New User
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coolness! i dig it (except maybe for the long horse/beast neck...maybe thicken it up more) i've been sitting on the same idea for more than a year (well not a chaos knight rider anyway). i have 100+ wheels and cheap source of green stuff and a ton of epo-putty, but was too damned chicken to try it out. they look neat. thank you for inspiring me. you have just solved my problem of purchasing 30 bikes. all that money can buy a whole lotta beer instead.  and yeah, that meatloaf bike works too. -g
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