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Sup guys,
Quick questions regarding daemon "Iron Hide" upgrade. It states that the unit or model gains a 3+ armor save. Since all daemon saves are invulnerable base. Is the 3+ iron hide upgrade invulnerable or just regular, then they use their stat-line save for invulnerable.
Thanks in advance.

If it states that they get a 3+ armor save then that is exactly what they receive from that power.

If it says the save improves to 3+ then it would be classified as whatever is their base, in this case Invulnerable save.

the codex states, "Models with the iron hide upgrade receive a 3+ iron hide armor save" So it should give a regular armor save.
In the daemon special rules section it states, " If the profile of a model in this army includes a save characteristic, this is its invulnerable save. Some models may also have an armour save, but this will be noted separately in their entry"

So..I guess they get a 3+ Armour save, not a 3+ invuln.. So bloodcrushers have 3+ regular and 5+ invuln?
Or have i messed something up.

Clauss wrote:So..I guess they get a 3+ Armour save, not a 3+ invuln.. So bloodcrushers have 3+ regular and 5+ invuln?

This is correct.

Damn, i was hoping for the 3+ both ways
Thanks though

That would be so cool, bloodthirsters with 3+ invul!