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I am attempting to streamline my army options, every model that can have a melta bomb now has one for example (I have yet to discover if this is a good idea or not but I am happy to explore it). This means that my melta vets will likely want to assault vehicles.

I am in need of clarification on rules for shooting, which I will get to in a moment. The first question I have is straightforward, If I shoot at one unit, am I then able to assault a different unit? I seem to remember the answer being no, but for the life of me I cannot find the page and concede that I may infact have imagined it. (The importance of this is that it is entirely likely that after having fired there will be nothing left to assault, if I am then unable to assault a unit other than the one I fired upon it may not be worth taking demolitions)

The second question is regarding basic shooting rules, I should know this, but what can I say it never came up in my games. Am I allowed to fire with selected models in a unit, and elect not to fire with others (eg vets with meltas fire, vets with lasguns hold fire), the importance of this being that if I fire at a vehicle with my meltas, and as a result the entie unit is considered to have fired their weapons, lasguns being rapid fire I am now unable to assault? If this is the case I am thinking I need to replace the lasguns with shotguns.

Not terribly complicated questions but the answers have thusfar eluded me.

For the shooting and assaulting question its answered on BRB page 33, under normal circumstances you cannot assault a different target from the one you shot at, models that were embarked on a wrecked or exploded transport are an exception to this rule.

For the second question the basic answer is yes, you can choose to not have some models in a squad fire their weapons while others do, but each firing model has to shoot the maximum shots it can so no firing 1 shot with a heavy 3 weapon unless you have a rule that allows you to do otherwise. So if you do not fire weapons that would disallow assault(heavy, rapid fire, etc) you could then assault the unit you shot at.

phw4 wrote:I am attempting to streamline my army options, every model that can have a melta bomb now has one for example (I have yet to discover if this is a good idea or not but I am happy to explore it). This means that my melta vets will likely want to assault vehicles.

I am in need of clarification on rules for shooting, which I will get to in a moment. The first question I have is straightforward, If I shoot at one unit, am I then able to assault a different unit? I seem to remember the answer being no, but for the life of me I cannot find the page and concede that I may infact have imagined it. (The importance of this is that it is entirely likely that after having fired there will be nothing left to assault, if I am then unable to assault a unit other than the one I fired upon it may not be worth taking demolitions)

Yes the answer is NO. You can only ever assault the unit you just shot. It is also true that you may destroy the unit when you have shot. I would suggest don't take the demolition charges as the melta grenade is alot less dangerous to you, also give the rest of the squad krak grenades (6+D6 armour pen can still be quite helpful) so you will most probably destroy the vehicle in close combat. The charge is a bad idea because the 6" range and the fact is is a large blast mean it will scatter 0-8" so it could und up scattering onto your unit or missing your target completely. If you end up killing yourself with somethign you didn't need as you woudl obviously be in assault range anyway I would suggest not taking it. Its up to you though, whatever yoru preference.

phw4 wrote:The second question is regarding basic shooting rules, I should know this, but what can I say it never came up as a matter of any importance. Am I allowed to fire with selected models in a unit, and elect not to fire with others (eg vets with meltas fire, vets with lasguns hold fire), the importance of this being that if I fire at a vehicle with my meltas, and as a result the entie unit is considered to have fired their weapons, lasguns being rapid fire I am now unable to assault? If this is the case I am thinking I need to replace the lasguns with shotguns.

You can elect for only certain members of the squad to fire hence the heavy weapons don't fire so you can still assault. If would be silly if you had to shoot ever model because if you moved then ladcannons can't shoot so neither can the reast of the squad, that makes no sense. You simple just say you are shooting with just the vets armed with meltas.


I hope this is helpful and I havn't rambled on.

Thanks for the fast replies, back to the drawing board lol.

What I think I will do then is put my meltas into CCSx2 and give them Krack grenades. Possibly giving the commanders power fists instead of melta bombs incase I get tarpitted by something other than a vehicle or simply as a chance in hell to survive being charged by assault squads.

Anyway thanks again for the swift responses.

TheAvengingKnee wrote:For the second question the basic answer is yes, you can choose to not have some models in a squad fire their weapons while others do, but each firing model has to shoot the maximum shots it can.

And remember that you first declare who is shooting, then you shoot. If the target didn't go down you can't decide to use the Demo charge after all.

Just a clarification, although you can only declare an assault against the unit you shot at, you can still multi-assault into other units after you make base contact with your first model into the declared target.