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Made in gb
Devastating Dark Reaper





UK, Wherever I lay my hat

Hey people, first post in a long time. Like the title says I'm returning to the Eldar and 40k in general after quite a long absence so I'm looking to you, people of Dakka to help me design a 1000 point list for some small games to familiarize myself with with rules and tactics again. I'm not too fussed about making an uber-competitive list, just one where I'm not deliberately shooting myself in the foot.

I've come up with an initial idea for a list which I'd like to hear some feedback on, where it might be weak and some possible tactics.

HQ - 138

Farseer w/ spirit stones, runes of warding, doom, guide, singing spear (goes with the Avengers in the Waveserpent)

Elites - 148

6 Striking Scorpions w/ 1 upgraded to exarch scorpion's claw, stalker, shadowstrike

Troops - 460

8 Dire Avengers w/ 1 upgraded to exarch, 2nd catapult, bladestorm
+ Waveserpent w/ bright lances, spirit stones

10 Guardians w/ scatter laser platform

5 Dire Avengers w/ 1 upgraded to exarch, 2nd catapult, bladestorm (transported in the Falcon)

Heavy Support - 250

War Walker w/ 2 scatter lasers

Falcon w/ bright lance, holo-field, spirit stones

Total: 996pts


So that's that, anyways this is just my initial idea so feel free to suggest something completely different, I'm not overly limited by models. Thanks in advance people

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/05/30 08:17:51


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Guarding Guardian





I'm guessing the 5 man Dire Avenger squad is there to make the Falcon scoring? in which case the Exarch is unnessicary and a waste of points.

Sticking with the Falcon lance weaponary on a BS3 non twin linked platform is pretty dire, and on a Falcon against Land Raiders the pulse laser will be wasted I load my Falcons out with a Missile Launcher. This gives another S8 shot if you move at 6" or 2 S8 from the pulse laser and a S4 defensive blast if you move 12" for less points.

What have you got in mind for the Scorpions? outflanking or infiltration? either way I feel 6 is too small a number to accomplish much. Infact I'd be inclined to swap them for 5 Fire Dragons find points for a second bare bones wave serpent (or put them in the falcon but then this detracts from it's gun ship role).

I've never used war walkers but I think one of them is giving away an easy kill point for not much gain, I'd be inclined to replace it with a Nightspinner which is useful against all infantry and forces difficult and dangerous terrain checks on your target (rules for this are on GWs website).

Lastly you don't really need 2 powers on your farseer at this points level, once you've paid for spirit stones and a second power your pushing an additonal 50 points, I'd drop guide as doom will benefit the avengers more and is a better force multiplier (can effect more than one of your units shooting and a longer range).

I've modified your list slightly with this in mind..

HQ - 98

Farseer, Doom, Runes of Warding, Singing Spear

Elites - 190

5 Fire Dragons
+Wave Serpent w/ twin shurikan cannons, spirit stones

Troops - 413

8 Dire Avengers, Exarch upgrade with blade storm dual shurikan catapults
+ Wave Serpent w/ twin Eldar Missile Launcher

10 Guardians w/ Scatter Laser

5 Dire Avengers

Heavy Support - 295

Falcon w/ Eldar Missile Launcher, Holofeild, Spirit Stones

Nightspinner (as it's a barrage weapon with long range it should be able to stay out of harms way and so not require upgrades)

996
   
Made in gb
Devastating Dark Reaper





UK, Wherever I lay my hat

Thanks Stu. I unfortunately don't have fire dragon models and I would really rather use what I do have at the moment. With this in mind do you think I would need to hold onto the lances as they are my only effective weapon against tanks with above AV12?

I take your point about the scorps being rather small though. My intentions for them were to use the shadowstrike exarch power to infiltrate them (this is the one that gets you into your opponents deployment zone right?) With the points saved from the farseer I could add 2 more, would 8 be enough to do some damage?

I had intended for the Avengers in the Falcon to get out and shoot things hence the exarch.

Also the night spinner is interesting but I can't find the rules for it anywhere on the gw site.

You've just got to love the Space Elves

Inquisition themed guard? ...One day in the far far future.
 
   
Made in gb
Guarding Guardian





8 Scorpions should do fine, Shadow Strike allows them to infiltrate close to your opponent, it also allows to out flank from reserve how ever this has a 1 in 3 chance of them not coming on where you want them...

If you expect to face Land Raiders/Leman Russ's (they have side armour 13 now I think) then yeah you'll need the Lances however with things like Ork Battlewagons/ Predators/ Vindicators it is possible to get a side armour shot using the speed of the Grav Tanks.

GW have hidden the rules for the nightspinner away... but heres a link to the PDF

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?categoryId=cat440244a&aId=15100016a
   
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Devastating Dark Reaper





UK, Wherever I lay my hat

Interesting, cheers for the link Stu. I'd still rather make a list from the models I have at the moment but that's a definite future purchase.

Perhaps this would be easier if I just posted a list of all the models I actually have and we could work from there? Getting rather late now though so I'll do it in the morning.


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Okay everyone this is a list of all the models I own, hopefully something decent and fun to play can be made out of these.

HQ

Farseer
Eldrad
Prince Yriel
1 Warlock

Elites

12 Striking Scorpions
12 Howling Banshees
8 Harlequins

Troops

20 Dire Avengers
10 Guardians
5 Rangers
3 Jetbikes

Fast Attack

6 Swooping Hawks

Heavy Support

3 War Walkers
Falcon
Fire Prism
5 Dark Reapers

Transport

Waveserpent


Yes I'm surprised I only have the one Waveserpent too, a second one is one of my next purchases. But what can be made from what I have at the moment?

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2011/05/30 11:55:54


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