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Don't have my rulebook infront of me but had a thought...

Iirc if 2 units are in area terrian and are 2" from each other niether may claim the cover save. (If I'm misreemberring I appoligize).

If this is true the won't a barrage weapon ignore coversaves if more than 50% of the models are within 2" of the center hole?

That is incorrect.

When shooting OUT of area terrain, if you are less than 2" of the edge you do not grant cover from the terrain you are standing in. This obviously does not apply if you are shooting INTO terrain....

Which means you are not correct in your barrage idea - what counts is whether the firing model is firing out of terrain, which is clearly isnt.

Yonush wrote:
Iirc if 2 units are in area terrian and are 2" from each other niether may claim the cover save. (If I'm misreemberring I appoligize).

You're misremembering. A unit in area terrain gains a cover save from all firing except template or other weaponry that ignores cover saves.
Distance from the enemy has nothing to do with it.
You're confusing this with the rule for firing out through less than 2" of area terrain.

What time wizard said -- Shooting an opponent through 2" or less of terrain doesn't grant them a cover save...but doesn't negate the fact that they will get a cover save from being in terrain themselves. You could be nose-to-nose in a forest and the target unit would still be able to take a cover save vs any non-template shooting attacks (barring those that specifically ignore cover saves, such as strength D weaponry).

tetrisphreak - that isnt quite correct!

WHen shooting OUT of terrain, the 2" rule applies - but you are shooting out of the terrain in the OPs example.

Well the way I read the OP was that he was shooting out of terrain into the same piece of terrain. The targeted unit gets a cover save because they're in the terrain piece, regardless of where shots are being fired from.

If i misread the scenario i apologize.

You cannot shoot "out" of a piece of terrain and "into" the piece of terrain at the same time: you are shooting THROUGH the piece of terrain.

nosferatu1001 wrote:tetrisphreak - that isnt quite correct!

WHen shooting OUT of terrain, the 2" rule applies - but you are shooting out of the terrain in the OPs example.

Did you mean to say "you aren't shooting out of the terrain in the OPs example."?

And the 2" rule applies when firing through up to 2" of the terrain you are occupying.
Different than just shooting out of it.

Incorrect. Read the WHOLE of the paragraph, which is entitled "firing out of area terrain". If you are not firing "out of" area terrain that paragraph does not apply to you.

And yes i meant "arent" in that quote.

Regardless of the trajectory of the firing pattern, is it not correct that the targeted unit recieves a cover save from having 50%+ models in or touching area terrain (unless the firing weapon negates such a save)?

Yes, that is correct - I was just pointing out that there is no "2" rule" just for firing *through* area terrain, jsut when you are firing out of terrain.