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Hi all,

Going to a 1750 tournament and taking a fairly standard kan wall list. Got it to 1736 points as follows:

HQ
Big Mek w/ Kustom Force Field, Extra Armor - 90

ELITES
8 Lootas - 120
8 Lootas - 120
8 Lootas - 120

TROOPS
27 Slugga Boyz led by Nob w/ Boss Pole and Power Klaw - 208
26 Slugga Boyz led by Nob w/ Boss Pole and Power Klaw - 202
25 Slugga Boyz led by Nob w/ Boss Pole and Power Klaw - 196
Dreadnaught w/ 4 DCCWs, Extra Armor, Grot Riggers - 120
10 Grots led by Slaver w/ Grabba Stick - 40

FAST ATTACK
Deth Kopta w/ Rokkit Launcha and Buzz Saw - 70

HEAVY SUPPORT
3 Killa Kans w/ Grotzookas - 135
3 Killa Kans w/ Rokkit Launchas - 150
3 Killa Kans w/ Kustom Mega Blastas - 165

The deff kopta is out of place… I know. I just needed to make points with painted models. Basically, its job will be to outflank and suicide a tank or something.

What lists do you anticipate giving me problems? I'm thinking guard in general (usually have problems with them) and long fang heavy space wolves. Anything else? Any other glaring weaknesses spring to mind? Any ideas for the remaining 14 points?

-Tyr

looks good.

The deffkopta is not out of place one bit. They work extremely well as a scout unit to suicide tank hunt which will protect you from manticores and other light vehicles. So if I were you I'd try for one more by making your lootas 2 units of 5 and the other 10 and get yourself another suicide copter.

Not sure why you are running slugga boys because a kan wall needs to shoot its weapons so you aren't running after turn one. That's a mad amount of shots you can use with shoota boys that you are missing out on.

you could put some rokkits or big shootas on the boyz since they won't run much if they want to stay behind the kans

With regard to sluggas over shootas, I agree... shootas would work better. However, its more about what all I have painted at this point. The other thing is, I've played kan walls before and I often end up running my boyz anyway for positioning purposes. So I wanted to save points on special weapons and gain the extra attack in CC.

I might change up the number of lootas. The reason I did 3 units of 8 was to basically make them all the same so the enemy wouldn't be more tempted to shoot one over the others.

-Tyr

If you are going to have your lootas the same to avoid being picked off you may want to think the same logic around your kans. Odds are your KMB kans will be first to go so you are basically investing 15 points that may not shoot. I'd take all rokkits or 2/3 rokkits 1/3 grotzooka. Just my two cents.

Have you considered replacing the Sluggas with Shoota Boyz?Still get 3 attacks each on the charge and they are awesome when you roll well in the shooting phase.

I'd also consider replacing some or all of the Lootas with Kommandos w/Snikrot. The enema is going to want to hold back against their board edge with that Kan Wall coming at them... the Kommandos will make them reconsider that and present the dilemma of holding back and getting ambushed or pushing forward and engaging the Green tide that much sooner.