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Two Questions:

If the vindicare uses a shield breaker round against a storm shield terminator, does the the termi keep its 5++ while losing the 3++?

If the vindicare uses a shield breaker round against ARJAC ROCKFIST, does Arjac lose all the benefits that come with anvil shield (+1A in first round of any combat) or just the 3++?

No. It loses all wargear provided inv saves, which is both the 5++ from the armour and the 3++ from the stormshield.

He just loses the invulnerable save, nothing else - it doesnt drestroy the wargear

Thanks Nos.

I wish I brought my codex to work haha I want to re-read the language for myself.

I am a little surprised the Termie would lose both invuls. In my mind the storm shield is in addition to the termi armor as opposed to an improvement. In essence I imagined a SS termi could always choose to use the 5++ instead of the 3++, if they so desired.

WEll, no they couldnt - the rules for saves state you always take the best one.

The round removes ALL wargear-provided saves, and armour IS wargear.

nosferatu1001 wrote:WEll, no they couldnt - the rules for saves state you always take the best one.

The round removes ALL wargear-provided saves, and armour IS wargear.

ahhhh i see. Wow that is even better than I thought.