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Fixture of Dakka






Lincolnshire, UK

Here's my current idea for my Space Wolves army, not intended for grand tournaments or anything but hopefully could hold its own.


HQ - Rune Priest - Living Lightning, Murderous Hurricane - Chooser of the Slain - 110pts (Grey Hunters)


Elites - 5 Wolf Scouts - 2 Plasma Pistols, Meltagun - 115pts

Elites - 5 Wolf Scouts - 2 Plasma Pistols, Meltagun - 115pts

Elites - Dreadnought - TL Lascannon, Heavy Flamer - 145pts


Troops - 10 Grey Hunters - Wolf Standard, 2 meltaguns - rhino - 200pts

Troops - 10 Grey Hunters - Wolf Standard, 2 flamers - rhino - 195pts

Troops - 9 Grey Hunters - Wolf Standard, 1 flamer - rhino - 185pts (Rune Priest)


Fast Attack - Land Speeder - Typhoon Missile Launcher - 90pts

Fast Attack - Land Speeder - Typhoon Missile Launcher - 90pts


Heavy Support - Vindicator - Siege Shield - 125pts

Heavy Support - Vindicator - Siege Shield - 125pts

----- 1495pts -----

The general idea is for the Wolf Scouts to encourage the opponent to push forwards or expose themselves to the scouts, by pushing forward they would hopefully be moving closer to the advancing Vindicators and Grey Hunters, thereby forming a pincer movement alongside the scouts. The Typhoons and Dreadnought (and LL) will be picking apart the enemy at range and attempting to further coerce them into the path of Grey Hunters/Vindicators.
I know the Rifleman dread would probably be superior for the sole purpose of ranged support, but the LC/HF Dread wins by rule of cool. At the end I had 35pts left over so I added another plasma pistol to each Wolf Scout unit (to improve their overall damage output and reliability against armour) and will probably spend the last 5pts on a meltabomb for the HQ or WTT for the Dread.


All thoughts, comments and criticism welcome.

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Atlanta, Ga

All in all I kind of like the list with.

The only real suggestion I may throw out there is the used of Predator Destructors in place of the Vindicators as they're pretty nasty and you need a few more longer range shots in the list than 2 pairs of missiles on wet paper air planes. At that point, you could change the Speeders to MM/HF and with the overall savings you could afford 3 Land Speeders. Kind of like the following:

HQ - Rune Priest - Living Lightning, Murderous Hurricane - Chooser of the Slain - 110pts (Grey Hunters)


Elites - 5 Wolf Scouts - 2 Plasma Pistols, Meltagun - 115pts

Elites - 5 Wolf Scouts - 2 Plasma Pistols, Meltagun - 115pts

Elites - Dreadnought - TL Lascannon, Heavy Flamer - 145pts


Troops - 10 Grey Hunters - Wolf Standard, 2 meltaguns - rhino - 200pts

Troops - 10 Grey Hunters - Wolf Standard, 2 flamers - rhino - 195pts

Troops - 9 Grey Hunters - Wolf Standard, 1 flamer - rhino - 185pts (Rune Priest)


Fast Attack - Land Speeder - Multi-Melta, Heavy Flamer -70

Fast Attack - Land Speeder - Multi-Melta, Heavy Flamer -70

Fast Attack - Land Speeder - Multi-Melta, Heavy Flamer -70


Heavy Support - Predator Destructor -Lascannon Sponsons - 120pts

Heavy Support - Predator Destructor -Lascannon Sponsons - 120pts

----- 1505pts -----

5 points over but you have some places where you could make room for the points if you want.

I would also probably drop one unit of Scouts for some Wolf Guard for the Grey Hunters and Scouts but that's just a thought.

I figure between the 3 Heavy Flamers of the Speeders you should have enough to burninate anything. Vindi's are awesome against units of elites and if they have enough long ranged support. Without long ranged support they just get snubbed too quickly.

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hmm,interesting list (its quite original, i havent seen many of this kind before)
i think the lack of long fangs can prove to be a bad thing, because its after all one of the best heavy support choices in the game(read )
its nice to see that someone wants to try to make a list without them

 
   
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Death-Dealing Devastator





U.K.

I like the list it must be said alot of people use too many long fangs ( 3 squads of 6 all with ML is a pain) but on the flip side of this playing as wolves we dont get access to heavy weapons in our Tactical/Grey hunter units, and so we are limited some what for heavy supporting weapons. the preds are a good idea but why 2 lasscannons, as sponsons? use the annihalator pattern for twin-linked lascannon and heavy bolter sides for the infantry mop-ups.
I dont know about you but the SM based armies i play against are Raider heavy so a twin-linked shot at armour 14 is a god send when you roll pesky ones and twos.

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Atlanta, Ga

I said the Autocannon with the 2 Lascannon Sponsons for a couple of reasons:

1) You don't want to mix weapon types (i.e. Lascannons and Heavy Bolters) because of range and Strength differences.

2) The Destructor with 2 Lascannons gives you a platform that can hit Light to medium vehicles with 4 high strength shots. If you take an Annihilator pattern with Lascannon Sponsons you throw on another 45 points per tank...easily up to 90 points between the 2 which would greatly limit the other units in the list. No bueno in my opinion.


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Lincolnshire, UK

Cheers Jepe, much appreciated man.

Thanks Lokki; I recognise the strength of Long Fangs, but then again they can also be a pain to try and include as well as my preferring the land speeder model! Unholy's spot on with the predator advantages however.

Thanks for the feedback Unholy; I know what you're saying about the predators (and I am a big fan of that configuration), however the predators wouldn't take advantage of the Wolf Scouts like the Vindicators would as the enemy is stuck between trying to avoid their board edge and the approaching armour, whilst the Vindicators are superior against the likes of paladins, nobs and Land Raiders. Hopefully the enemy would be too busy with the 30 grey hunters and 2 vindicators to effectively target the land speeders or dreadnought too?
I know what you're saying about long ranged fire and I completely agree, I guess I often try to stick too heavily to the Space Wolves natural area of close quarters...

I'm not sure how you worked out the points for the speeders and predators however: they're 450pts together, whilst the Vindicators and Typhoons are 430pts?

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"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman

"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
 
   
 
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