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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/10 03:32:34
Subject: Sisters Hospitallier
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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Personally, these ladies are my favourite bit of the 40k universe.
It's an odd position for an Imperial Adeptus, where compassion is turned into a strength, rather than looked on as a weakness. Working in refugee camps, helping the sick of the under-hives, acting as medics to other Sororitas and their darker assignments to the Inquisition all interest me.
So far the only bit of solid information I can get on them comes from the, far too short, excerpt in the WH codex. Is there anywhere that the Sisters Hospitalliers are researched in more detail?
Particular orders and their structure?
Are they held by any sort of mission or do they go where they are (medically) needed most?
Just what do they do, are there any pieces of cannon where they feature heavily?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/10 03:37:07
Subject: Sisters Hospitallier
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Mostly Dark Heresy. The Tranch Wars have one notable fluff examples-- they had taken the las and autoguns of their patients up to defend the hospital, and easily repelled the attacking forces with them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/10 04:57:02
Subject: Sisters Hospitallier
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
University of St. Andrews
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Out of curiosity, do all members of the Adeptus Sororitas come from the Schola Progenium, or do only Sisters of Battles?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/10 07:43:33
Subject: Sisters Hospitallier
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Executing Exarch
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Emperors Faithful wrote:It's an odd position for an Imperial Adeptus, where compassion is turned into a strength, rather than looked on as a weakness. Working in refugee camps, helping the sick of the under-hives, acting as medics to other Sororitas and their darker assignments to the Inquisition all interest me.
The fluff mostly ignores compassion because most of the focus is on the battles. But there are indications here and there that compassion and charity toward humans is something that some lower ranking members of the Ecclesiarchy engage in.
The Hospitallars are the only organization dedicated to something along those lines that's been mentioned to date, though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/10 07:54:00
Subject: Re:Sisters Hospitallier
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Most stuff in "Dark Heresy: Blood of Martyrs" currently, also a few bits in the Codices.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/10 08:28:43
Subject: Re:Sisters Hospitallier
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Been Around the Block
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Lucky you, the Hospitaller was released as a preview PDF, so if you're mostly interested in that, you don't have to buy the book:
http://www.gametrademagazine.com/downloads/SisterHospitaller.pdf
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/10 15:44:04
Subject: Sisters Hospitallier
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Warriors of Ultramar has some extra information on a particular Sister and her experiences.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/10 16:21:45
Subject: Sisters Hospitallier
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iproxtaco wrote:Warriors of Ultramar has some extra information on a particular Sister and her experiences.
I liked those bits...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/10 16:54:02
Subject: Sisters Hospitallier
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ChrisWWII wrote:Out of curiosity, do all members of the Adeptus Sororitas come from the Schola Progenium, or do only Sisters of Battles?
Not even all Battle Sisters come from the Schola Progenium, potentially any woman/girl can join the Sororitas, the Schola Progenium however porvides indoctrinated, trained and hand picked individuals.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/10 17:49:54
Subject: Sisters Hospitallier
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Im following this.
If the SoB come in plastic I will consider buying them...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/10 19:45:18
Subject: Sisters Hospitallier
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Gogsnik wrote:ChrisWWII wrote:Out of curiosity, do all members of the Adeptus Sororitas come from the Schola Progenium, or do only Sisters of Battles?
Not even all Battle Sisters come from the Schola Progenium, potentially any woman/girl can join the Sororitas, the Schola Progenium however porvides indoctrinated, trained and hand picked individuals.
Yeah, haven't seen any source for this....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/11 00:43:12
Subject: Sisters Hospitallier
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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Melissia wrote:Gogsnik wrote:ChrisWWII wrote:Out of curiosity, do all members of the Adeptus Sororitas come from the Schola Progenium, or do only Sisters of Battles?
Not even all Battle Sisters come from the Schola Progenium, potentially any woman/girl can join the Sororitas, the Schola Progenium however porvides indoctrinated, trained and hand picked individuals.
Yeah, haven't seen any source for this....
Ditto.
I was under the impression that all Soroitas start from the Schola Progenium, and the sisters that demonstrate particular tendencies are passed on to more specialised areas. Such as a novice gifted in lagnuages goes to the Order Famulous, or one that demonstrates a lack of 'stomach' for fighting or shows healing skills goes to the Order Hospitallier.
@Jaq: Great article, mate!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/11 00:45:01
Subject: Sisters Hospitallier
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Language is of th Ordo Dialogous. The famulous are a bit more esoteric in their role, but it basically is summed up as keep a watch on the households and finances of the nobles, as well as their purity and etc. It's considered a great honor for a noble house to have a famulous.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/11 00:55:05
Subject: Sisters Hospitallier
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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Ah, got the two mixed up.
I thought it was a little funny that one of their roles is to prevent inbreeding.
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After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/11 01:03:05
Subject: Sisters Hospitallier
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It is . They help broker arranged marriages and keep track of bloodlines as well. Overtly, though, their primary function is basically like a master of the estates, keeping everything running smoothly, etc because the nobles themselves are often incompetent at this sort of thing.
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/11 01:04:30
Subject: Re:Sisters Hospitallier
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The Conquerer
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the bulk of Sisters probably come from the Progenium. the rest are probably a mix of those motivated for religious purposes and those who really have nowhere else to turn.
I think that most orders maintain an armory, even if they are Hospitallers.
the Sisters of Battle just specilize in combat.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/11 01:20:05
Subject: Re:Sisters Hospitallier
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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Grey Templar wrote:the bulk of Sisters probably come from the Progenium. the rest are probably a mix of those motivated for religious purposes and those who really have nowhere else to turn.
From Dark heresy, the only worlds where they don't come from the Scholam are feudal worlds, where they are recruited almost in the same manner as Astartes initiates by Sisters at the convents there. These are considered the rarest by far.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/11 01:24:19
Subject: Re:Sisters Hospitallier
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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Melissia wrote:Grey Templar wrote:the bulk of Sisters probably come from the Progenium. the rest are probably a mix of those motivated for religious purposes and those who really have nowhere else to turn.
From Dark heresy, the only worlds where they don't come from the Scholam are feudal worlds, where they are recruited almost in the same manner as Astartes initiates by Sisters at the convents there. These are considered the rarest by far.
Question:
For Sisters to be admitted into the Schola Progenium, do they have to be high-class orphans (like the Stormtroopers are, their parents are dead Imperial officials) or just orphans?
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Smacks wrote:
After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/11 01:25:55
Subject: Re:Sisters Hospitallier
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Emperors Faithful wrote:Melissia wrote:Grey Templar wrote:the bulk of Sisters probably come from the Progenium. the rest are probably a mix of those motivated for religious purposes and those who really have nowhere else to turn.
From Dark heresy, the only worlds where they don't come from the Scholam are feudal worlds, where they are recruited almost in the same manner as Astartes initiates by Sisters at the convents there. These are considered the rarest by far. Question: For Sisters to be admitted into the Schola Progenium, do they have to be high-class orphans (like the Stormtroopers are, their parents are dead Imperial officials) or just orphans?
The scholam makes no distinction. But parents being officers and war heroes are most common. All of them have to be orphans of the military, but there's quite a bit of those as you can imagine.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/11 01:27:50
Subject: Sisters Hospitallier
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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Sweet.
The Imperium of Mankind. Take in helpless orphans, give them weapons, unleash them on the galaxy.
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Smacks wrote:
After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
"Good game guys, now lets hit the showers" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/11 03:07:27
Subject: Sisters Hospitallier
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Emperors Faithful wrote:Sweet.
The Imperium of Mankind. Take in helpless orphans, give them weapons, unleash them on the galaxy. 
You forgot the brainwashing with propaganda step.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/11 04:00:17
Subject: Sisters Hospitallier
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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And that they train them to ruthless and exacting standards that make our current spec-ops training look lax
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/11 04:15:33
Subject: Sisters Hospitallier
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Executing Exarch
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Seaward wrote:Emperors Faithful wrote:Sweet.
The Imperium of Mankind. Take in helpless orphans, give them weapons, unleash them on the galaxy. 
You forgot the brainwashing with propaganda step.
I wouldn't call it brainwashing. Otherwise Cain wouldn't be the rogue that he is. There's plenty of indoctrination, no doubt. But that's hardly surprising.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/11 04:38:20
Subject: Re:Sisters Hospitallier
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The Conquerer
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you really don't need to say anything about the brainwashing. its pretty standard stuff for the Imperium as a whole, only done to a slightly higher standard.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/11 07:20:00
Subject: Sisters Hospitallier
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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Eumerin wrote:
I wouldn't call it brainwashing. Otherwise Cain wouldn't be the rogue that he is. There's plenty of indoctrination, no doubt. But that's hardly surprising.
Cain may be a rogue, but he's still doggedly loyal to the Imperium, which is what the brainwashing is meant to do in the first place.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/11 10:10:06
Subject: Sisters Hospitallier
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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Seaward wrote:Emperors Faithful wrote:Sweet.
The Imperium of Mankind. Take in helpless orphans, give them weapons, unleash them on the galaxy. 
You forgot the brainwashing with propaganda step.
Melissia wrote:And that they train them to ruthless and exacting standards that make our current spec-ops training look lax 
Hey, come on people. The basic formula is there.
ChrisWWII wrote:Eumerin wrote:
I wouldn't call it brainwashing. Otherwise Cain wouldn't be the rogue that he is. There's plenty of indoctrination, no doubt. But that's hardly surprising.
Cain may be a rogue, but he's still doggedly loyal to the Imperium, which is what the brainwashing is meant to do in the first place.
Balderdash! He's loyal to the Imperium becuase in his heart he knows that Humanity is in the Right. Then, now, always.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/11 15:48:16
Subject: Sisters Hospitallier
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ChrisWWII wrote:Eumerin wrote:
I wouldn't call it brainwashing. Otherwise Cain wouldn't be the rogue that he is. There's plenty of indoctrination, no doubt. But that's hardly surprising.
Cain may be a rogue, but he's still doggedly loyal to the Imperium, which is what the brainwashing is meant to do in the first place.
By that definition, ALL military training units brainwash.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/11 16:40:31
Subject: Sisters Hospitallier
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But, still, political indoctrination as understood by the Schola Progenium seems to take things a little bit further than simple patriotism. Nothing a cynical mind like Cain's can't ward off, though
Back on topic, I also love the Sisters Hospitallier. I see their role falling between that of the Red Cross, catholic Daughters of Charity and the Knights Hospitallier of the middle ages, both providing some sort of basic healthcare to the poor and the needy and acting as battlefield medics when needed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/12 00:11:00
Subject: Sisters Hospitallier
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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Agent_Tremolo wrote:But, still, political indoctrination as understood by the Schola Progenium seems to take things a little bit further than simple patriotism. Nothing a cynical mind like Cain's can't ward off, though 
The levels of indoctrination aren't fully explored, but we need only look at the zealous nature of those that come from the Schola to get an idea.
Back on topic, I also love the Sisters Hospitallier. I see their role falling between that of the Red Cross, catholic Daughters of Charity and the Knights Hospitallier of the middle ages, both providing some sort of basic healthcare to the poor and the needy and acting as battlefield medics when needed.
Funnily enough, despite the name the Knights Hospitallier would be closer to the Sisters Militant, their primary concern was patrolling the pilgrim routes of the Holy Land and keeping the pilgrims free from bandit attacks.
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After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
"Good game guys, now lets hit the showers" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/12 05:50:34
Subject: Sisters Hospitallier
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Emperors Faithful wrote:Funnily enough, despite the name the Knights Hospitallier would be closer to the Sisters Militant, their primary concern was patrolling the pilgrim routes of the Holy Land and keeping the pilgrims free from bandit attacks.
I think I remember reading once that they got their name because they offered hospitality at their waystations. In a place like the Middle East, a safe place to sleep and water to drink while traveling would be literal life savers.
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