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So as i understand it, like creatures can join like creatures right?

the question is, can a beast of Nurgle which is infantry, join a squad of plague bearers which are also infantry? Can they blob up and make a big mass or do they have to stay seperate?

No units may join any other units.

There are listed exceptions to this, one example is Independent Characters have an exception where they may join units.

Or in the case of IG, where it says "Combined Squads."

your understanding is not correct. Like creatures has nothing to do with whether or not units can join each other. Only ICs (or possibly some similar special rule) can join another unit, and generally speaking, it does not matter what the unit type of either is, so long as it's not a unit type that is specifically disallowed (vehicels, units that always consist of a single model, for example).

So can a MC join a squad of infantry? Like say a Fateweaver and a group of horrors?

xSoulgrinderx wrote:So can a MC join a squad of infantry? Like say a Fateweaver and a group of horrors?

As long as Fateweaver is an Independent Character then he may join a unit of horrors.

Unless the horrors or Fateweaver have specific rules that disallow joining an Independent Character to them.

and as a MC he can still be targeted separately for shooting since the horrors are not MC's

Targeting MCs seperately from a squad of non-MCs? Where does it say that?


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EDIT: Nevermind, found it, its only if the IC is an MC. Was confused for a second there.

So if i understand this correctly, the type of creature doesnt matter when joining a unit?

All IC can join a unit no matter what type they are?

Also when running or fleeting with a unit, do you roll once for each unit and take the highest or do you roll for the MC and the unit seperatly and take the highest of that?

Shadelkan wrote:Targeting MCs seperately from a squad of non-MCs? Where does it say that?


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EDIT: Nevermind, found it, its only if the IC is an MC. Was confused for a second there.

Just to hijack this a second.


Can a Hive Tyrant be singled out from a Unit of himself and a group of Tyrant guard then?
As the Guard stop him being an Independent Character?

And can they claim a cover save if the guard are behind some Termagants?

xSoulgrinderx wrote:All IC can join a unit no matter what type they are?

So long as the unit they want to join is not a vehicle or a unit that can only ever consist of a single model, yes. The Unit Type (for anything other than vehicles) is irrelevant.

Also when running or fleeting with a unit, do you roll once for each unit and take the highest or do you roll for the MC and the unit seperatly and take the highest of that?

If they are joined, they are functioning as a single unit.


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Bloodhorror wrote:Can a Hive Tyrant be singled out from a Unit of himself and a group of Tyrant guard then?
As the Guard stop him being an Independent Character?

He was never an IC to begin with. He is allowed to join the Guard as if he were an IC... but he's not an IC, and once joined is simply a part of the unit.

So no, he can't be singled out.

And can they claim a cover save if the guard are behind some Termagants?

If at least half of the unit is in cover, the unit gains a cover save.

That just seems absurd, a 2 story alien gets cover from a 4ft termagant? lol

Also i thought that only snipers could pick out an IC out of a unit? That in cc that you can allocate the attack to an IC?\.

xSoulgrinderx wrote:That just seems absurd, a 2 story alien gets cover from a 4ft termagant? lol

No, the unit as a whole gains cover from being obscured by the unit in front of them.

Also i thought that only snipers could pick out an IC out of a unit?

Unless the IC is a monstrous creature in a unit of non-MCs, yes, that is correct.

That in cc that you can allocate the attack to an IC?\.

Also correct, provided you're in base contact with it, or not in base contact with the rest of the unit but within 2" of a friendly model from the same unit in base contact with it.

But only IC can join other units....

Yes...?

xSoulgrinderx wrote:But only IC can join other units....

Unless the model/unit has a special rule allowing otherwise. Hive Tyrant (non-IC) can join Tyrnat Guard. IG Infantry squads (really non-IC) can join with other IG Infantry squads from the same platoon.

Also, snipers cannot pick out a model in a unit, only one sniper, the Vindicare, can do so. My poor little Ratlings just aren't that good.

And Telion can do it too IIRC

And now, for a fun exercise, let's name all the Monstrous Creature IC's!

Ctan

Noone else, from memory, and they have the rule which disallows them from joining units so in 5th ed have no benefit to being an IC (they did in 3rd)