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Hi Dakka. I was wondering about something. It is wrong that Ghazkull Thraka (Ork) lost in CC to Commander Farsight (Tau). I thought this was unnatural and I have realized that Ghazkulls klaw was a regular power klaw. You'd think that the Ork who crushed loads of planets would be able to have his Klaw improved. I also observed that Forge Father Vulkan He'Stan (SM)has the same major bonus and was cheaper than Ghazkull by 30 some points. I have nothing against the Forge Father but Ghazkull needs to be worth his points value (or don't let Farsight have the dawn blade) so I think Ghazkulls Klaw should give +3 attacks (just Ghazkull), tell me what you think, and if there is a character you think needs to be upgraded to be worth its points

I've had Guardsmen tear their way through ork hordes in CC, and I've won tank battles against Tau Hammerheads. Just because you lost one close combat does not mean the game is broken...you were unlucky, and Farsight was lucky.

You also fail to consider a lot of other things. Does Vulkan or Farsight get a WAAAGH! that gives their whole CC oriented army an auto 6 on a run roll, and gives that army fleet? Do Vulkan or Farsight get a 2++ invul save during that Waagh!!! ? There are lots of other factors to consider than just number of attacks, Ghazzie is worth every point.

Ghazkull is appropriately costed just the way he is. Your comparisons to other ICs ignores a lot of important factors on both sides of the equation.

I've seen Calgar fall in CC to an unupgraded IG command squad. That doesn't mean that Calgar is too weak, or the IG too strong, it just means that the random number generators that control the game produced one of the more unlikely sets of results.

Many characters need some upgrades to be viable.

Ghazkull definitely isn't one of them. Basically what others have said. There is a reason why he is often taken in Ork lists. He is very good and there is no need to make him even better.

Or to make the Tau special characters any worse...

Give Yarrick some kind of detrimental effect on moral when facing Orks. Because, you know, his weapon is a former Ork's arm.

Recent games:

5 normal pathfinders kick the C**p out of the Dark Angels Master of the Ravenwing

A pair of Tau Crisis suits kill a Greater Daemon of Slaanesh in close combat - particuarily galling for me as the same Daemon had slaughtered my Archon and her incubi the previous week.

the Dice gods are most powerful

I really like lots of options but think Gaz is good enough for his points

Whoops! turns out the reason Farsight won was because my opponent and I screwed up one of the rules Thraka's fine I just forgot a couple things I.E. cybork body. You guys were right, I was wrong.

i revived this dead thread too