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Hello this is my first post here so i apoligize if a broke any rule that i didnt read in my eagerness to get feedback from fellow warhammer 40k players. Also please excuse any grammertical errors. So heres my problem i have always favoured speedy and airborne armys and after seeing a eldar jetbike army i was very anxious to try one out so a borrwed a eldar codex and got enough models to proxy as jetbikes and played against some of my friends. My problem came in the form of the outcome of these games my friends failed to take down even a single sqaud a bikes the best one of them managed was four . This went on for around 5 games where who ever was playing against me insisted i was cheating and once i showed them i wasn't said my army was unfair and told me there was no skill in playing it. Before this we where all about equal in skill level so my sudden winning streak made them very angry. So basicly my choices are to get the army and feel mean every time i play them or get another army that plays similar. If you know any armies that play like this army please tell me im so confused on what to do.

I won't excuse grammar errors on this scale... make a bloody paragraph.

Anyway, your friends should man up and take the challenge :\

Well you have the SM bike choice, if you just like being manueverable look at necrons, they can teleport around nicely, Dark Eldar are very much alpha(first) strikers, so fast but squishy, a piece of advice is if you can just temporarily swap lists with that friend and play against your army if you win with your friends army point out what they could do different, if they lose figure out ways to beat your list, itll make your list stronger since you know the weaknesses and also itll make you a better player.

P.S. Welcome to Dakka


Edit: I had to do that with a proxy necron list just to shut people up about how broken they are, I think I tabled my list in 3-4 turns

Ergh, sorry for that harsh welcome mate, but it's been a long day on dakka today when it comes to grammar...

But yeah, I guess you should look into bike oriented armies if your looking for maneuvrabilty.

Don't go for Ork bikers list though, cause they wreck to much face.

Also what are your friends playing, because it may just be them being dinks and all mobility may be out of the question if you dont want to maul them viciously 9/10 times.
@Soladrin ya that thread is getting rough to read

We tryed that and all my friend said while he was playing my army was how easy it is and that it takes no skill to play. Then i beat him because i was holding all the objectives while he just zoomed around the table all he had to say about this is that he had no good rolls and that it was his first time playing it (ps his rolls wern't bad at all)

Also after looking back at my opening post I see how badly it was written im sorry ive never been good at getting my thoughts across through writeing and or typeing.


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My friends armys are a imperial gaurd mech army, a ultramarine army with alot of teminators and preds, a grey knights army and a trynids army with a very low amount of gaunts.

SM bike lists are fast, and tough (T5). Eldar and DE are both very fast armies. Orks and BA can be very quick, but there will always be a special place in my heart for Raven Wing armies. Similar to SM biker lists, but more expensive and they can outflank. Thinking of an entire Biker army that outflanks kinda scares me a bit.

Also welcome.

It sounds like your friend is a bad loser. You're in a difficult situation, No offense to him, but I would keep winning, do not let him win if at all possible, it sounds as if he would be a sore winner and would be very arrogant and annoying, and would likely make you angry at him.
Play whatever army you enjoy. It's obvious that a mobile jetbike force is what you're good at, a sore losers attitude shouldn't prevent you from having fun.

In otherwords hes just TFG, its understandable where you would beat a mellee nids list, but the rest speaks to lack of skill


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Also it's not really your fault for being snapped at for the grammatical errors, I think Soladrin is on edge from a troll thread that is horrible to read

That, and this site is turning me into a grammar nut at times. It's just to common.

Anyway, I think the problem really isn't at your end of the table. I don't know if your really good friends, but if you are, you should have a chat about it outside of the gaming enviroment. He may not even be aware of his actions. (seen this before)

Soladrin wrote:That, and this site is turning me into a grammar nut at times. It's just to common.

Anyway, I think the problem really isn't at your end of the table. I don't know if your really good friends, but if you are, you should have a chat about it outside of the gaming enviroment. He may not even be aware of his actions. (seen this before)

I've found doing that is treading dangerous water, TFGs can get very pissed if you point out they are a TFG

I would keep playing eldar but the persons houses who we play at is also the one who Is the most angry at my army mainly becuase before this he normaly won most of the times and he loves winning and hates loseing and to make it worse before we played he said some profanitys i can not mention about the eldar so when i tabled him he was very mad.

As I thought, just a sore loser. Better not to confront him, better for bother of you to suck it up and keep going.

That's why I said, if your good friends.

Good friends can take a pointer from someone they know have the best of intentions. Otherwise, yeah, he's a prick.

zerdail wrote:I would keep playing them but the persons houses who we play at is also the one who Is the most angry at my army mainly becuase before this he normaly won most of the times and he loves winning and hates loseing and to make it worse before we played he said some profanitys i can not mention about the eldar so when i tabled him he was very mad.

...well I would see if somewhere else would be a better locale, maybe a FLGS or another friends place, at least until he matures up and realizes that you are not going to win all the time....Hell I have no respect for eldar (bloody space elves)but if I get tabled by them I look and see what could have been done, also maybe get some of the other people to confront him about it too, since his actions probably irritate the other people/cause them to essentially voluntarily lose to keep him happy, which is not fun for anyone

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zerdail wrote:I would keep playing them but the persons houses who we play at is also the one who Is the most angry at my army mainly becuase before this he normaly won most of the times and he loves winning and hates loseing and to make it worse before we played he said some profanitys i can not mention about the eldar so when i tabled him he was very mad.

...well I would see if somewhere else would be a better locale, maybe a FLGS or another friends place, at least until he matures up and realizes that you are not going to win all the time....Hell I have no respect for eldar (bloody space elves)but if I get tabled by them I look and see what could have been done, also maybe get some of the other people to confront him about it too, since his actions probably irritate the other people/cause them to essentially voluntarily lose to keep him happy, which is not fun for anyone

QFT. I have friends that are like this about video games, it is not fun. Maybe consider not playing him.

alternatively, get him on Dakka and force him into a convo with starter of aforementioned troll thread.

He will die.

......NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!, Voryn you truly are an agent of chaos.

Wardragoon wrote:......NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!, Voryn you truly are an agent of chaos.

What can i say, I try

Also forgot to include a warm welcome to DAKKA!