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Let me know what you think. Goal is to take out tanks with Oblits and then outlast any infantry with T5 swarms and demons.

Demon Prince Goes towards the squishy horde element of the opponent.
Wings Mark of Nurgle Nurgles Rot

Demon Prince Moves things out of cover and into a pile for Oblits.
Wings Mark of Slaanesh Lash

10 Plague Marines Drives Toward enemy Objective or armor.
2 w/ Melta
Pchamp Pfist
Chaos Rhino

10 Plague Marines Drive them straight towards enemy armor, preferably Landraider.
2 w/ Melta
Pchamp w/ Pfist + Meltabombs
Chaos Rhino Dpossessed

15 Plague Marines Stays on my objective, or footslogs with the 3 oblits
1 Melta/ 1 Flamer
Pchamp Meltabombs

3 Oblits Follows the Lash Demon and plasmas the blob.
2 Oblits Place high in a building and be annoying
2 Oblits Suicide Melta

Summoned greater demon "Worst Life Insurance Policy Ever"

Doomthumbs wrote:10 Plague Marines Drives Toward enemy Objective or armor. 2 w/ Melta Pchamp Pfist Chaos Rhino

I'd add EA to make sure it delivers those MGs.

Doomthumbs wrote:10 Plague Marines 2 w/ Melta Pchamp w/ Pfist + Meltabombs Chaos Rhino Dpossessed

MBs and a Pfist is kinda redundant, but you said you're going after AV14? The thing is the Oblits and DPs ought to be taking care of any AV14. Also, DPossessed is over spending for a rhino as its TL-bolter isn't worth paying the points for. I'd just go EA.

Doomthumbs wrote:15 Plague Marines 1 Melta/ 1 Flamer Pchamp Meltabombs

A couple things here:
1. For the objective baby-sitters, I'd have PGs instead of mg/flamer. A Pfist champ will not get utilized, unless they're assaulted and that means your game is already going south. I'd have a *much* smaller crew for the rear objective sitting anyway (and do, actually, 7 PMs with 2 pgs).
2. However, if they're going to march forward, I'd go 2 mgs. With 13 other clowns around them, keeping the 2 flamer models in useable position gets dicey. MGs don't have to worry about shooting through other models.

Try to decide what you want them to do, before your game and equip accordingly.

Doomthumbs wrote:2 Oblits Suicide Melta

The whole 'suicide' thing is a bad philosophy, IMHO. For Crisis Suits (when I played tau in 4e) and my CSM-Oblit Spam list. I always started 'em on the table, where the shooting is maximized turn-for-turn, instead of mitigated by capricious Reserve or Scatter rolls. Whenever an opponent announced he was Reserving oblits, I smiled inside.


Generally, I've seen a troop unit per 500 points. You can easily shuffle some PMs around and pick up another troop unit; 2 guys from the tens and 3 from the large unit, adding in two more special weps for one nurgle boy out totally.

Competitively, I haven't seen the large-unit sized PM armies do too well, as it's easy to tarpit the big-crew, hindering objective securing and fire power.

Non-secquitor: Gene Simmons?

These are some good points.
I'll shuffle some stuff around, drop the possession, see of I can't get another unit of marines out of it.

And sure, gene simmons.

I agree with the points about the 15 plagues and the suicide oblits that erekrose made. I would rather have two smaller squads of plagues than one larger as it gives more target saturation and versatility. Granted, it's more expensive, but I think it's worth it.

Not a fan of suiciding oblits, as in most games there are not any targets worth the 150 points that those two are costing you aside from a land raider, or a pesky vindicator that you don't want laying hands on your boyz.
Not saying that they are bad, as I have used and seen them used very effectively myself in the past, but it's hit or miss.

Also, I understand the point of the lash prince, but he isnt really fluffy, now is he?

Yeah, not too fluffy. But necessary like whoa.

I'm also keeping the suicide oblits. My force isn't incedibly mobile, and that will help against any run and gun themed opponent.


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Plus, they're already modeled with wings.

And enough of the list is already " I outlast you lol" themed that two crazy oblits seem to fit.

Yea, the nice thing about those suicide oblits is that if you get close enough, Twin-linked meltaguns. If you're a little farther out, Multi-meltas.
Realistically though, against run and gun enemies just having 7 oblits on the table could take out enough as well. Considering that most run and guns don't have over armor 12.