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Grovelin' Grot Rigger





Chestermere AB

so i have a squad of kommandos and snikrot and want to learn some good tactics or hints when i face him next week and so on.
when i did use him for the first time i used him to attack my brothers Sanguinary Guard, now i dont know if it was the rolls or if it was a bad idea in the first place :S

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Not a good idea to attack elite or close combat units. Kommandoes are good at unexpectedly pouncing on backline units, e.g. heavy weapons and stationary vehicles.

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Beast of Nurgle





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When Ork Kommandos are lead by "Boss Snikrot" you can ambush. (Snikrot and his unit can be held in reserve, once available they may move on from any table edge).
   
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Powerful Irongut



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The classic Snikrot trick is to take either Mad Doc or Ghazzgul (or both I guess) and attach to the Kommando unit, then Ambush. As they are IC's they can do this. Mad doc will give them Fearless (and Cybork bodies of you want....) and Ghazzy will just get stuck in-it's a good way to get over his Slow and Purposeful and get him into CC quickly..
   
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Son_Of _Deddog wrote:The classic Snikrot trick is to take either Mad Doc or Ghazzgul (or both I guess) and attach to the Kommando unit, then Ambush. As they are IC's they can do this. Mad doc will give them Fearless (and Cybork bodies of you want....) and Ghazzy will just get stuck in-it's a good way to get over his Slow and Purposeful and get him into CC quickly..


1. You're throwing away HQ slots
2. Kommandoz arrive from reserve, meaning they will be slower than any transport.
3. While the Mad Dok Grotznik might be worthwhile or at least funny, Ghazzghkull Thrakka belongs nowhere near kommandoz. Pointsink, S&P, unit auto-dies on , has no staying power and prevents you from using the special Waagh! until they arrive from reserves. Never, ever attach both, that results in a 600 point chaos spawn.

The best use for Snikrot is taking out soft targets and/or artillery. Bring burnas if you want to kill infantry and rokkits if you are going after tanks, find out which one works better for you. Sanguine guard is not something they should go after, they're not much stronger than trukkboyz after all. You wouldn't throw a single trukk at the sanguine guard either.

7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. 
   
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Powerful Irongut



Bedford UK

I never said it was good, just classic!!
   
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Jidmah wrote:
Son_Of _Deddog wrote:The classic Snikrot trick is to take either Mad Doc or Ghazzgul (or both I guess) and attach to the Kommando unit, then Ambush. As they are IC's they can do this. Mad doc will give them Fearless (and Cybork bodies of you want....) and Ghazzy will just get stuck in-it's a good way to get over his Slow and Purposeful and get him into CC quickly..


1. You're throwing away HQ slots
2. Kommandoz arrive from reserve, meaning they will be slower than any transport.
3. While the Mad Dok Grotznik might be worthwhile or at least funny, Ghazzghkull Thrakka belongs nowhere near kommandoz. Pointsink, S&P, unit auto-dies on , has no staying power and prevents you from using the special Waagh! until they arrive from reserves. Never, ever attach both, that results in a 600 point chaos spawn.

The best use for Snikrot is taking out soft targets and/or artillery. Bring burnas if you want to kill infantry and rokkits if you are going after tanks, find out which one works better for you. Sanguine guard is not something they should go after, they're not much stronger than trukkboyz after all. You wouldn't throw a single trukk at the sanguine guard either.


I generally agree... but depending on your list, putting Ghazzie or other HQ with snikrot may make sense...

I play a kanwall list with Ghazzie+snikrot. Tactic is that my main force is pushing towards the middle of the table... what this does is forces the opponents to the outer edge of the 3/4 sides of the table. Snikrot's Ambush proved invaluable in that I can place his squad + ghazzy effectively on any table side. In fact, that unit single handedly practically won 3 of my GT games recently.

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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk






Your list would profit about twice as much from a second bigmek+whatever you get for 100 points. If you opponent knows how to counter this strategy, it folds easily. Casteling up and bubblewraps/tarpits break your 500 point unit's neck, and they won't even have to move from the table edge for that.

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7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. 
   
Made in ca
Grovelin' Grot Rigger





Chestermere AB

Thanks he uses devastators alot too perhaps its wise to attack them. And i recently got a big mek KFF. So i always bring ghazman. So would ghazman and AOBR warboss be better than ghaz and bigmek KFF?
Im new to this game and would love to finally win. We keep having ties..

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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk






Always use the KFF mek. If you have points to spare, use Ghazghkull Thrakka, otherwise the regular Warboss.

7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. 
   
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In my deep strikign ork list i use mad doc with snickrot and max komandoes 2 burnas and cbork the lot... its expensive points wise but with FNP, a 5++ and remember he makes the unit he joins fearless

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Grovelin' Grot Rigger





Chestermere AB

Awesome i just finished my KFF mek
(pics later)
My kommando squad is just 5 slugga choppa boyz and snikrot


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Also. Which wargear is best for mek? I have a PK on him...

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KFF. Cybork or 'eavy Armour, maybe. Burnas are nice.

Mostly it depends on what unit he's attached to. If Burnas, then a Burna. If Boyz, then a PK. If Nobz, then the armour. Not much else, really.


I occasionally run one with Mega Armour, Burna, Squig, Cybork and Bosspole when I'm feeling points cheap- I run him with my Meganobz in a Battlewagon. He really adds to the survivability of it, and it's nice to have that Init Powerweapon from the Burna.

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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk






I'd always use the burna over the PK, as the big mek's initiative is not that bad and might even take out something with that power weapon before it's going to strike, and he wouldn't have a shooting weapon otherwise. Personal taste though, I often run my KFF mek without any upgrades, as he is usually staying inside a BW all game long.

7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. 
   
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta






my big mek... combi burna , kff, eavy armor. if there are points i turn the decorative boss pole into a actual bosspole of the mechanical arm into a powerclaw

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Liche Priest Hierophant






Can't take a Kombi-weapon with a KFF, 'cause the Kombi replaces the Slugga, as does the KFF.

GENERATION 8: The first time you see this, copy and paste it into your sig and add 1 to the number after generation. Consider it a social experiment.

If yer an Ork, why dont ya WAAAGH!!

M.A.V.- if you liked ChromeHounds, drop by the site and give it a go. Or check out my M.A.V. Oneshots videos on YouTube! 
   
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.. really? ... that blows, now i have to remodel the thing .. or just use the kombi burner and say its a burner... i'm lazy, I'll do that

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